Mental health fluff

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Tue, 10-22-2013 - 11:12am

Since some questions were left unanswered on the other thread, here goes:

1. Do you have personal experience, yourself or someone close to you, of going through a mental illness, either severe like bipolar or schizophrenia, or less serious like anxiety or PPD that required treatment?

2. Do you consider it stigmatizing to have a mentally ill family member? IOW, if you have been in this situation, is it something you talk to others about or do you try to avoid the subject?

3. Do you consider mental illness to be a controversial subject, and if so, in what way?

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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 10:25am

emptynester2009 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">rollmops2009</em> wrote:</div>Jams, about those walks. I think they may be more enjoyable if you do not have the disease in question perhaps. The walks do raise money and that is certainly good. I have no squabble with that. Personally, however, it would be hard for me to participate in the breast cancer one. I went by when they had it this year (it is the local Komen "Race for the Cure"). Participants who have breast cancer are made to wear bright pink T-shirts that say "SURVIVOR" on them. I am not a "survivor." I am someone whose cancer, thankfully, is in remission, but I won't be a breast cancer SURVIVOR until there is an actual cure or until I die of something other than breast cancer. I hope this helps in explaining my POV.</blockquote></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">Like most anything else people have different feelings about that.  We are doing the R for the C next month, DD1 is team leader and will be walking. <br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium"></span><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">The last one I was in I found very sad.  I was just a few weeks after DD2's best friend died from breast cancer.  Her widower was on our team.   As survivors go through the finish line they announce on the loud speaker,  "Susie, 3 year survivor"  etc.  So all morning he had to hear that.  In the same situation I could not do that, I felt so bad for him.  </span></p>

Oh, I agree there are all sorts of personalities that come out for these marches/walks.  Some people or teams can be incredibly outrageous while others more quiet, a lot of inbetween too. 

 

 

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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 10:28am
"there's also a place to celebrate and to support one another positively too," ----- OK, maybe, but personally I do not see the point of pep rallies. Nor do I see the point of calling people survivors when there is no cure. With breast cancer, I think most people are aware. I would prefer to have more practical rallies at this point, where docs were on hand to check people, for example (which my own doc did).
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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 10:45am

You don't tell people that say they actually are "survivors" that do you?  Your opinions fall short with me, I think there's more about others you feel than you lead on...  How is your brother?  What kind of support does he get and what kind of support and advocacy should be spread out there about MI that there isn't enough of already? 

 

 

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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 10:58am

Jams, ok, I am not following you here. Other people may refer to themselves any way they like. I was only talking about what I will (and won't) do, personally. How do you mean that there are more to my feelings? You can just say it, because it is hard to guess what you are driving at.

Not sure exactly what you are interested in concerning my brother. He is getting a lot of support and has been getting a lot of support for many years now, including a disability pension, a visiting nurse, family etc.

As far as awareness of MI, I think a lot still needs to be done to make the general public understand what MI is and what it isn't. What you had to endure from your MIL is a perfect example.

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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 11:40am

rollmops2009 wrote:
<p>Jams, ok, I am not following you here. Other people may refer to themselves any way they like. I was only talking about what I will (and won't) do, personally. How do you mean that there are more to my feelings? You can just say it, because it is hard to guess what you are driving at.</p><p>Not sure exactly what you are interested in concerning my brother. He is getting a lot of support and has been getting a lot of support for many years now, including a disability pension, a visiting nurse, family etc.</p><p>As far as awareness of MI, I think a lot still needs to be done to make the general public understand what MI is and what it isn't. What you had to endure from your MIL is a perfect example.</p>

Ok, then.  But when you say, like just now, that others are made to wear tshirts that's not only not true but it seems to validate you feeligs against what others like to do.  About MIL, How do you change ignorance?  See, If I would have let her ignorance and others' shallow beliefs dictate for DD/us what we felt was right then perhaps the outcome would have been different.   DD is thriving and she nolonger exhibits the symptoms of that SM that once plagued her.  I've also learned through others ignorance that you have to do what you think is right not what others think is right for you.  MIL lives her life according to what she thinks is right and while that does come across as pretty darn harsh it's not my place to change her. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thu, 10-24-2013 - 12:02pm

"But when you say, like just now, that others are made to wear tshirts that's not only not true but it seems to validate you feeligs against what others like to do." 

I am sorry, I do not know what you mean here. If I wanted to participate in the Komen run, when I register, they will ask me if I am someone who has a breast cancer DX. If I say 'yes', they will expect me to wear the pink "SURVIVOR" T. I could, of course, lie, but that doesn't sit right with me, so I do not participate.

It may not be your personal place to change the attitude of your particular MIL, but as a society, I certainly think we should work towards informing people and changing such attitudes.

I would still really like to know, for the sake of the good discussion, what feelings you think I have related to all this.

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Sat, 10-26-2013 - 4:12am
Jams, just saw a small story this morning which relates to what we have been talking about. Because of the public discussion of the limitations of "awareness" campaigns and the problems of "pink washing," a HS football team (I don't know which town) decided that instead of spending a bunch of money on pink socks and stuff for "awareness," they instead donated all that money to a local charity that helps newly DXed women. That story made me smile.
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Sun, 10-27-2013 - 8:58am

Cool for that football team, It's amazing the different things people/organizations are doing this month for the cause..  DD's school actually dedicated a day there for breast cancer awareness earlier this month, she had uploaded pics of friends wearing pink capes on fb, she wore her pink hoodie, it was cute.  Money collected was given to one of the local hospitals.  I wonder if you could find as much attention for the cause all year long..... Let me know what links you find in say, February or March. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sun, 10-27-2013 - 9:57am
Jams, I am not sure what the dearth of pink pep rallies in February has to do with the price of tea in China. I would also love to follow up your previous comments, but I can't really until you explain more clearly what feelings it is you think I have about all this (not even really sure if you were referring to feelings about MI or breast cancer or pink rallies or a combo). Just so you know that I am not trying to avoid answering. It is simply that I can't guess what you are asking.
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Sun, 10-27-2013 - 10:51am

Your last stitch was at Pink Oct and my reply was that isn't it wonderful the many ways to support a common cause... About MI, I forgot where we left off. The last thing I said had to do with supporting rallies and marches for that too and open discussion with open minds. You said something about ignorance but didn't elaborate so I shall ask again.. How exactly do you open closed minds and how do you fix ignorance (like that exhibited by MIL, I'm sure she's not the only one)..... Thank you.

 

 

 

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