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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 8:34am

What separates private school from public school IYO?

What school memories stand out about your own schooling?  Did you attend public schools or "private"?

What did you want to be when you grew up?

As a side, What's your weather like today? :)

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 4:43pm

Yea, Only a rock would assume you don't teach religous education in catholic schools spring.  Lol.  And a nice alternative is religous education sometime during the week.  When DS was preparing for first communion his class was full of both the public school kids + catholic school kids.  That was nice, When I was a kid that was all separated. 

 

 

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 4:58pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p>Jams wrote: "Little to nothing b/c student success comes down to the individual student than school, The potential for a student to soar just as well in public than private is there."</p><p>Are your really serious? The quality of education is very important to the educational outcome of any student. Public schools can provide an excellent education, but they are dependent on good teachers and community resources to provide a setting in which a student can learn. It is rare that a student rises to the top is a poor district, though it happens.</p><p>Two articles on the front page of the NYT and Washington Post I read today dispute your assertion (they might be behind a paywall).</p><p><span>Graduates from low-performing D.C. schools face tough college road</span></p><p><span>http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/graduates-from-low-performing-dc-schools-face-tough-college-road/2013/06/16/e4c769a0-d49a-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html?hpid=z4</span></p><p>Schooling Ourselves in an Unequal America</p><p><span>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/schooling-ourselves-in-an-unequal-america/?hp<br /></span></p>

You are leaving out one critical factor, families in these communities.  What more can schools do in poor communties that they aren't already doing?  Do you think they rank as poor educators as a whole too?  Curious.

ETA A lot of recognized teachers or teachers of the year come from urban schools or schools in lower ses areas, Teachers in upper middle class areas have it easy compared to them.  Schools in poor communities do more than you think. 

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:21pm

Jams wrote: "You are leaving out one critical factor, families in these communities.  What more can schools do in poor communties that they aren't already doing?  Do you think they rank as poor educators as a whole too?  Curious."

I think schools can and should provide a lot more in the underserved communities. I think an investment in universal preK for 3 and 4yos would be a great start. There’s abundant research showing the lifetime benefits of early education.

Though family's active involvement in education can greatly enhance the student experience, if the family can't or won't participate, help teachers and adminstrators turn the schools into an extended family of community support, unity and respect.

Make the classroom a place where a teacher is encouraged to figure out what’s best for each child, rather than batch-processing them. Have a rigorous curriculum that teaches critical thinging skills, not test prep questions.

And lastly, make it possible for education to be the path out of poverty. I believe that inequality in the US is becoming much worse than it was a generation ago and it is a troubling trend for the future of public education unless it is reversed.

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:23pm

What separates private school from public school IYO?: In our case, about $45,000 for both kids. Also, their private school is a better fit than the public school they previously attended.

What school memories stand out about your own schooling?  That I went to so many, in so many different states.  Did you attend public schools or "private"? Both.

What did you want to be when you grew up? A teacher, then an archaelogist, then a lawyer. I became a tech writer, than a sci/med journalist, then a director of Christian ed.

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:31pm

Good points chestnut, I do think that preK should become universal and mandatory!  Teachers and schools are also getting grants to help turn schools around, What the government can NOT afford to do IMO is take funding away from poor performing schools and sadly, that's what's being done in a lot of areas. Families need more help which is an issue all it's own too!

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:32pm

What separates private school from public school IYO?

Funding, entrance criteria, more specialized curricula in private schools.  We have a lot of truly outstanding private schools here and some that are horrifyingly inadequate, but allow parents to have their wish of not exposing their children to people who are different from them (mostly different religious beliefs), which seems to be a high priority for some.  When I was in school, the trend was for the caucasian students to move from public school to a private academy in jr high, so that they didn't have to attend school with (and, in some cases, date) people of other races.  Frown  Thankfully, my family was not trendy.

What school memories stand out about your own schooling?  Did you attend public schools or "private"?

I attended public schools.  I don't really have any memories that stand out other than riding the bus a LOT.  I was in a rural county with only one Jr HS and one HS.  We lived at the opposite end of the county from those schools, so during those years it was a 1.5-2 hour bus ride each way.  In HS, we moved to a suburban area, so that was completely different.  I loved those years.

What did you want to be when you grew up?

A special ed teacher.  I got over that really quickly.

As a side, What's your weather like today? :)

Oh, I don't know.  It's been sunny.  I think it was in the 90s earlier.  My phone says it's 84 now.


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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:35pm
My sister is special ed certified but her specialty lies in speech and language. I admire a lot of work special ed teachers do.

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:36pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Yea, Only a rock would assume you don't teach religous education in catholic schools spring.  Lol.  And a nice alternative is religous education sometime during the week.  When DS was preparing for first communion his class was full of both the public school kids + catholic school kids.  That was nice, When I was a kid that was all separated. </p><p> </p><p> </p>

I think if someone says that the exact same things are taught in a Catholic and public school a clarifying question can be asked and answered without name calling.  

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:39pm
Catholic education is a topic I don't think you know a whole lot about PKA. For starters, the eucharistic table isn't a closed one.

 

 

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Mon, 06-17-2013 - 5:40pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Good points chestnut, I do think that preK should become universal and mandatory!  Teachers and schools are also getting grants to help turn schools around, What the government can NOT afford to do IMO is take funding away from poor performing schools and sadly, that's what's being done in a lot of areas. Families need more help which is an issue all it's own too!</p>

I agree, taking away funding based on test scores is not the answer, that is one of the downfalls of the current system.  I think education needs to be looked at more than just test scores, they don't tell the story most of the time and it's a shame to measure based on those test scores.

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