OT WWYD - Gambling & Ethics?

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OT WWYD - Gambling & Ethics?
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Sat, 04-24-2004 - 8:51pm
I'm going on my annual Vegas trip on Monday with my best girlfriend. Every year before we go, friends give us a little $$ to place bets for them. Like "put $2 in the quarter slots for me" or "put this $5 on red."

Now, these "friend bets" have never paid out. But I'm wondering . . . what would I do if they DID? Let's say I put Kelly's $5 in the dollar slots and I win $500? Or, what if I won the big progressive jackpot? (I know, it's not going to happen . . . but humor me.) :)

WWYD if you placed a "friend bet" and it paid off big time? Honestly, I'd have a hard time not keeping it for myself. Honestly, I probably WOULD keep it for myself (and kick my friend down a little something, but I wouldn't tell her that the $$ I won was actually on her dime). Maybe I'd split it with her 50/50. But I really don't see myself handing over the whole wad of cash. My feeling is that if I hadn't been in Vegas to *place* the bet, she wouldn't have won - right? ;)

WWYD?

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Sat, 04-24-2004 - 8:56pm

If someone gave me money like that I would jokingly say back "I'll do it for you but if I win the big jackpot we're splitting it ok?" Like in a laughing tone so you don't sound like a freak. LOL


 

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Sat, 04-24-2004 - 9:17pm
I think I'd give them the money "they" won, and hope they'd contribute a little back my way! ;)

Or...I'd make a deal ahead of time...say, "Sure I'll bet this for you, if we can split the winnings 50/50"
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Sun, 04-25-2004 - 8:09am
I would give them all of their money. I think in most situations the person winning hte money would give some to the person who palced the bet but even if they don't it is still thier money. While it is true that if you had not been in Vegas to place the bet they would not have won it is also true that if you had not played their money you would not have won either.

"Honestly, I probably WOULD keep it for myself (and kick my friend down a little something, but I wouldn't tell her that the $$ I won was actually on her dime)

So what reason would you give for giving her money if you would not tell her that she won. "Your bet did not win but I am going to give you some money anyway".

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Sun, 04-25-2004 - 10:51pm
>>So what reason would you give for giving her money if you would not tell her that she won. "Your bet did not win but I am going to give you some money anyway".<<

Yeah . . . I guess that does sound pretty ridiculous doesn't it?

Actually, I'd like to amend my answer if I could. I talked with DH about this last night. He was *shocked* that I said I would keep the money. He asked me "wouldn't your conscious drive you up the wall?" And you know, it totally would.

Whatever I spent the $$ on, be it paying off credit cards, putting it into our savings/retirement/college fund, or buying something frivolous, I would think "this isn't *really* money *I* won."

So, I would probably give my friend "her" money and hope that she would have a similar conscious that would drive her up the wall if she didn't share some of it with me! :)

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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 9:09am

I would highly consider it.

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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 9:40am
First of all, I wouldn't ever be in this situation, because even in the unlikely event I were to go to Vegas, I'd never agree to take anyone else's money to gamble for them. Just doesn't seem like a good plan, for this very reason.

Why would her conscience smite her if her $ was the money that "hit"? It would be just that, HER money (not "her" money) unless you had agreed to pool your funds and split any winnings. It isn't like you were going to Vegas at her behest.

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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 12:10pm
Usually, no one asks. We are so close to Vegas that it's not a "big deal" for someone to go there. And we have a border town called "wendover" that is within an hour of SLC for people who need a gambling fix. Most people here go to vegas or wendover or mesquite at least once a year for something because it is so close so they don't ask friends to gamble for them. I maybe have been asked once or twice, and I flat out say when I take their money.......... "I get half of any big pot"......... and I mean it. Sure, if they won $100 on a slot with their quarters, I would give it to them. But if the progressive one won for $4.5 million or something, damn straight, I'm taking half! It's ethics....... how do they *know* it was their quarter and not yours? I couldn't live with myself just taking it all and lying. I usually do keep their dollars "seperate" and really play for them though- mostly it's put $25 on number 4 in roulette for me or something, so it's not going to be a major huge million dollar pot, and they specify like that (not just put a quarter in any machine) so if they won, yeah, I'd give it to them in its entirety, if they decided to kick something back, fine.
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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 12:20pm
>>Why would her conscience smite her if her $ was the money that "hit"? It would be just that, HER money (not "her" money) unless you had agreed to pool your funds and split any winnings. It isn't like you were going to Vegas at her behest.<<

Why WOULDN'T her conscience "smite" her? Sure, it is HER money, but I'M the one who picked the slot machine (or what have you), sat down at the right time, decided to put in her money at that exact moment as opposed to my money, and spun the reels.

If I gave a friend $5 to put in the slots at Vegas and she won a lot of $$, I could not in good conscience keep all of it. I would give her a chunk. It's not about the fact that it was MY money that paid off, it's the fact that she picked the "hot" machine at the "right" time. I'd personally see it as more of a "team" effort.

(You know what, I've got about 3 hours before I take off and I am going to address this issue with my co-worker before I leave!) :)


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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 1:32pm
Just call it your "commisssion." The bookies don't give away 100% of the winnings; do they?
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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 1:49pm
You agreed to undertake your effort with no agreement as to compensation and are therefore entitled to none, morally or otherwise. Unless you are psychic, picking the "hot" machine at the "right" time took perhaps a quarter's worth of skill and effort on your part, so I'd say she'd be morally obligated to you - to the tune of about a quarter. No, wait - if you really were psychic, you'd put "your" quarter in the "hot" machine at the "right" time! ;-) So I guess it was chance, and you'd be outta luck in my book.

Have fun, notwithstanding, LOL! ;-)

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