ot.........scary movies and kids

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Mon, 08-01-2005 - 11:37pm

bad mommy and daddy report tonight..we were channel surfing and dh decides to announce that we're going to watch the abc movie sixth sense. i'm saying no way and the oldest two, ages 6 and almost 8, are all for it because it's *scaaaaaary*. at every commercial i'm saying it's just make believe it's just make believe and even encouraged a channel change. we watched the entire movie and when it was time to go to bed, my oldest asked a genuine question: what do you do if (big emphasis on *if*) things pop out of the television mom? i reminded her that it was only a movie and that would never happen. she was certain i was wrong and kept asking "but what *if*...." i said it wouldn't happen and included other shows that wouldn't pop out either like her favorites spongebob and lizzie mcguire.

i feel so bad that these kids watched this movie. are there limits on programming at your home and would you have handled the scenario the same way with children at this age? tia for any btdt or advice.

m3t who can't wait til the school year starts so we can get back into a routine of 8P bedtime.

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 9:51pm

disagree means disagree......last time i checked anyway.

you rebuted tinderbox's very well said argument about why our church doesn't allow the sacrament of holy communion to all..like other denominations do....well maybe (NO REALLY NOW) it has everything to do with the commitment of our religion, the sacraments of our religion and the fact that because protestants are the very branches of what our religion teaches, why should we break down such holy bind?

i'm thinking of one of those cheers that chime with never giving up and always standing your ground.....nevermind. lol.

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 9:51pm

My church is inclusive. . .but it isn't about 'one-size-fits-all'. . .it's about thinking for ourselves, asking questions, interpreting the Bible, and living an active faith as we are called to do.


Actually, the Catholic traditions seem more 'one-size-fits-all' to me, since it seems that Catholics aren't encouraged to interpret the Bible, ask questions, etc. . .you're to follow the Catechism & Cannon Law and the interpretations of the Bible by the Priesthood.


If I am incorrect about my interpretations regarding your faith, I apologize.


Virgo

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 9:56pm

'Pears not. Here's a breakdown of who can have Communion with whom:

http://www.beliefnet.com/features/intercommunion/

Denomination Which denominations' members can receive Communion in your church? In which denominations are members of your church allowed to receive Communion?
Lutheran - ELCA
(ELCA members believe that, through Communion, they receive Christ's body and blood as assurance that God has forgiven their sins.) Communion is given to all baptized believers in Christ. Receiving Communion in another church is a matter of conscience for ELCA members. The church's only policy about the matter is that ELCA members can receive Communion in any church whose tenets are congruent with their own.

Lutheran - Missouri Synod
(Synod members believe that, through Communion, they receive Christ's body and blood as assurance that God has forgiven their sins.) Communion is open to members of a church that has entered into an "altar and pulpit fellowship" with the Missouri Synod. This is also known as a "full communion fellowship." In North America, this includes the Lutheran Church-Canada and the Lutheran Synod of Mexico. Elsewhere, about two dozen churches have "altar and pulpit fellowships" with the Missouri Synod. Members of the Missouri Synod can receive Communion only in denominations that have "altar and pulpit fellowships" with the Synod.

Methodist
(The bread and grape juice of Methodist Communion signify Christ's body and blood.) Has an "open table": anyone of any age who believes in Christ may receive Communion. Methodists can receive Communion in any church that welcomes them.

Episcopalian
(Many Episcopalians believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the consecrated bread and wine.) Communion is open to all baptized Christians. Episcopalians can receive Communion in any church that welcomes them.

Pentecostal Church of God
(Calls Communion the Lord's Supper. It is a memorial to Christ's death and resurrection.) Communion is open to all baptized Christians. Members of the Church of God can receive Communion in any church that welcomes them, but only if grape juice--not wine--is served, since Church of God members abstain from alcohol.

Presbyterian
(Communion--grape juice and wafers--is an "outward sign of an inward reality." It is a remembrance of Christ, not a transubstantiation of His body and blood.) Communion is open to all baptized Christians. Presbyterians can receive Communion in any church where they are welcome. They are now precluded from Communion in the Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches.

Roman Catholic
(Through the transubstantiation of the Communion bread and wine, Christ's body and blood are literally present for participants.) Communion is available to members of the Assyrian Church of the East, the Orthodox Churches, and the Polish National Church. Baptized Christians who do not belong to these churches may receive Catholic Communion only if they are gravely ill, do not have access to a minister of their own church, ask for Catholic Communion on their own initiative, and are "properly disposed" toward Catholic Eucharist. Catholics in danger of death can receive the Eucharist from a minister of the Assyrian Church of the East, the Orthodox Churches, or the Polish National Church only if a Catholic minister is unavailable and if they request such Communion of their own volition.

United Church of Christ
(Communion celebrates "not only the memory of a meal that is past, but an actual meal with the risen Christ that is a foretaste of the heavenly banquet.") Each individual congregation determines its own policies. However, most follow the UCC Book of Worship, which says the Communion Table is "open to all Christians who wish to know the presence of Christ and to share in the community of God's people" (more). The UCC is in communion with the Disciples of Christ, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and the Reformed Church in America, and has ecumenical partnerships with several denominations, including the Methodist, Anglican and Baptist churches.

Baptist
(The bread and grape juice of Communion memorialize Christ's body and blood, and are a reminder of the Second Coming.) The Baptist churches have no official policy regarding who can receive Communion. Each individual church is autonomous and sets its own policy. Some churches restrict Communion to members of that specific church; some open Communion to any baptized Christian; some open it to anyone present. Some Southern Baptist churches limit Communion to baptized Southern Baptists. Most ministers place the decision about whether to receive Communion in the hearts and minds of those present. The Baptist churches have no official policy regarding which non-Baptist churches its members can receive Communion in. Some ministers say that limiting Communion through such a policy would be contrary to Baptist belief in the "priesthood of the believer," which maintains that each Baptist is accountable directly to Christ.

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 9:58pm

I truly mean no disrespect. . .I simply come from a tradition that strives to break down the

Virgo
 
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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 9:58pm

consecration from the catechism:

the dedication of a thing or person to divine service by a prayer or blessing. the consecration at mass is the part of the eucharistic prayer (**meaning after the holy holy holy and before the mystery of faith**) during which the lord's words are institution of the eucharist at the last supper are recited by the priestly minister, making christ's body and blood - his sacrifice offered on the cross once for all - sacramenntally present under the species of bread and wine.

i inserted the asteriks for clarification of when this occurs.

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Registered: 10-18-2003
Wed, 08-10-2005 - 10:03pm
Ditto.

Elaine: "Is it a problem

Choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color.  Choosing your socks by their character makes no sense and choosing your friends by their color is unthinkable.

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 10:03pm
p.s. i wanted to add a r/l example that happened a few sundays ago at my church.....the priest literally forgot consecration. he leaped right from the holy holy holy to the great amen without going thru the rites of turning the bread and wine into the body and blood hence consecration.
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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 10:08pm

Sigh. Yes, during the consecration is when, for Catholics, the transubstantiation occurs. That does not mean transubstantiation MEANS consecration.

Consecration means something is being dedicated to divine service. Transubstantiation means the changing of one thing into another thing (as the water to wine). Not the same thing. May occur at same time. Not the same thing.

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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 10:10pm
"he would never partake in communion (until he converts to my church if he so choses) because he has the utmost respect for our tradition......" Of course, that it would cause quite a scene should he give it a try, because they wouldn't let him, has nothing to do with it.
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Wed, 08-10-2005 - 10:14pm

May I answer? Nothing.

From Understanding Annulments - St. Anthony Messenger Magazine Online:

"The only way a divorced Catholic can remarry lawfully in the Church is by obtaining a Church annulment.

What Is a Church Annulment?
An ecclesiastic annulment is a declaration by the Church that a marriage which was thought to be valid was not legally binding. This might be because of some defect in the consent given on the day of the wedding, or possibly a defect in the psychological capacity of one of the parties.

When an annulment is granted, the Church is not saying that there never was a marriage. The union certainly was a sociological fact, and the memory of it may even be cherished, but the legal contract on which it was based turned out to be invalid.

Canon law declares that all the children born of an annulled marriage are legitimate. The unfortunate designation "illegitimate" is hardly used anymore, but it is technically reserved for those born out of wedlock, which is certainly not the case in an annulled marriage."

http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/sep1998/feature1.asp

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