Picturing Hunger in America

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Picturing Hunger in America
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Sat, 02-22-2014 - 9:08am

Warning: these images may shatter your firmly-formed stereotypical ideas about those who struggle in America.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/breaking-stereotypes-women-use-cameras-aim-at-hunger/

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:08am

rollmops2009 wrote:
"Says a typesetter without that college education. But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt. Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too." --------- Aww, that was a klassy move. But to go back on topic, what do you think might be some solutions for people like the student debt lady?

I have a college education; I don't have a college degree.  

And given that you're the one demanding solutions, I suggest you start supplying them.

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:09am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Says a typesetter without that college education.  But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt.  Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too. </p>

It' certainly can be the result of financial choices made; I'm glad I've been able to emerge from poverty and that, even without a college degree, I'm earning, annually, right around the cost of her MA debt.

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:09am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Her entire college experiences total about 90.  She's not rich like you nor is she charging it up on credit cards (maybe some of it is there, I don't know).  But at least she has direction, She's not going to school just to fill time and I think she's an inspiration for her kids. </p>
.  Well, putting education on credit cards would be dumb if you didn't pay off the whole balance within a few days.  But if you do, it's smart.  I'm sorry you can't seem to understand that, but it's true.  and it's nice your friend had "direction" but it's still not smart to take out 90K in debt you have little chance of paying off.  I wasn't rich when I was a student, which is why it took me longer than average ti get through - I simply didn't take classes I dhdnt have the money to pay for.

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:11am

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;Says a typesetter without that college education.  But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt.  Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote>.  Would she be better off as a typesetter with an MA and 90K in student debt?  I am all in favor of people getting as much education as they can or want to get - but not at that cost.</p>

And if she was a typesetter with my employer, she'd 1) have a job and 2) a really good chance for paying off that debt within 5 to 10 years if they make the decision to live as much as possible off her dh's income. 

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:14am

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;Says a typesetter without that college education.  But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt.  Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote>.  Would she be better off as a typesetter with an MA and 90K in student debt?  I am all in favor of people getting as much education as they can or want to get - but not at that cost.</p>

So, what's your point..  Is the amount of debt and lack of income a factor to real poverty?  You call her choices not smart, I call poverty a culture for others who take from the system and refuse the responsibility that should come from that.  At least she is trying to better herself and I give her credit for that.....

 


 


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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:15am

rollmops2009 wrote:
". Would she be better off as a typesetter with an MA and 90K in student debt? I am all in favor of people getting as much education as they can or want to get - but not at that cost." ------------- Not to mention the fact that Grapthar has the equivalent to a college degree, due to the training she received while serving her country.

No sense bringing up my military service, Rollmops; Jambles has demonstrated time and again that she holds all I've ever done in service for my country in the deepest contempt and disdain.

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:20am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Says a typesetter without that college education.  But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt.  Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;.  Would she be better off as a typesetter with an MA and 90K in student debt?  I am all in favor of people getting as much education as they can or want to get - but not at that cost.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>So, what's your point..  Is the amount of debt and lack of income a factor to real poverty?  You call her choices not smart, I call poverty a culture for others who take from the system and refuse the responsibility that should come from that.  At least she is trying to better herself and I give her credit for that.....</p>
. Generational poverty can be akin to a "culture," and it's hard to break out of your own experiences and assumptions about how the world works.  It's why you are advocating investment strategies that were valid in 1929 which are no longer valid.  It is true there are many people who live day to day and are drpendent on the system and can't seem to break the cycle.  how do we go about trying to get more people to break the cycle?  I dont think going 90K in debt to get a degree in a field that is unlikely to repay the investment is a solution.

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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:22am
When I think of service people I think of respect and I think of nobility, Neither of which exhibit. Flame bait is what you do.

 


 


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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:27am

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;bordwithyou&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;jamblessedthree&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;Says a typesetter without that college education.  But I get your point, 90,000 is a lot of debt.  Poverty can be/and is a result of financial choices you make too. &amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;.  Would she be better off as a typesetter with an MA and 90K in student debt?  I am all in favor of people getting as much education as they can or want to get - but not at that cost.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, what's your point..  Is the amount of debt and lack of income a factor to real poverty?  You call her choices not smart, I call poverty a culture for others who take from the system and refuse the responsibility that should come from that.  At least she is trying to better herself and I give her credit for that.....&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote>. Generational poverty can be akin to a "culture," and it's hard to break out of your own experiences and assumptions about how the world works.  It's why you are advocating investment strategies that were valid in 1929 which are no longer valid.  It is true there are many people who live day to day and are drpendent on the system and can't seem to break the cycle.  how do we go about trying to get more people to break the cycle?  I dont think going 90K in debt to get a degree in a field that is unlikely to repay the investment is a solution.</p>

I can't keep up bord.  You're now overlapping investments to this thread, Ayi Lol.  There are a lot of old fashioned principles and theories that still exist today.  Just because you don't believe in them or honor htem does not make them less credible.  You surprise me a lot of the time and I can't believe you're as old as you are and don't know what old school would mean or where it would come from, I mean that's where old money comes from too, that is if you have it. 

 


 


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Sun, 02-23-2014 - 8:30am

jamblessedthree wrote:
When I think of service people I think of respect and I think of nobility, Neither of which exhibit. Flame bait is what you do.

Like I said; you have never demonstrated anything but contempt and disdain for my service.

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