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Wed, 06-23-2010 - 8:15am

in keeping with the tone of what GREATFULMOM shared, neighor kid who comes over to play with my 7 YO has assaulted me once again.

 

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Registered: 05-27-1998
Fri, 06-25-2010 - 9:04am

This is probably better on the religion debate board, but one of the principles of Christian thought is that God is in charge (thus, He is the authority), His plans are good and that consulting Him in prayer before making plans of one's own is generally a good idea, as it is beneficial to the person making the plans and pleasing to God.

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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 9:42am
Then "devout Christian" was a non sequitur?
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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 9:55am

but what does God's authority have to do with authority in my house and this boy?

 

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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 10:01am

Furthermore, you made it clear, it was NOT against authority that they had problems 'bucking the system' but against an older peer who was misbehaving.

Your post was perfectly clear; I can't imagine how anyone could have an issue with it.

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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 10:02am
No. It was context.

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Registered: 05-27-1998
Fri, 06-25-2010 - 8:00pm

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Romans 13:1


This passage, from St Paul's letter to the Romans, is what I use when discussing authority in my home. God established the concept of authority.


Of course there are times when you have to reject authority, such as when they are clearly doing wrong (Hitler, pedophiles, tyrants, etc), but the general idea is that having people in authority is a good thing and generally beneficial. So even if the kids in your home aren't yours, you still have authority over them while they are there. You are required by God to use your authority wisely and justly, of course, but ultimately, it is designed to benefit everyone.


And yeah, I know non-Christians mock this thinking, but it works for me quite well.


I think if you want more input/debate on this particular topic, we should probably take this to the religion debate board, since it's really outside the scope of this board. (And I do generally respect the authority of the ivillage powers that be.) ;)

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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 9:05pm

So your 7yos were devout Christians?

Excuse me for thinking that "devout Christian" meant being at an age when one can intellectually accept Jesus as lord and savior. IME, it doesn't come before, at a minimum, until the age of confirmation. My kids get confirmed at 13 or 14 in our church.

My kids are raised in a devout Christian household, but until they can understand and accept Jesus and live their lives as a disciple of Christ, I don't consider them devout (though I hope they will be).

No screed nor LOL intended. Just responding to your written words.

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Fri, 06-25-2010 - 10:43pm


Really? Who mocks authority in our own homes? (I'm not a big fan of Paul, in many ways, but I won't take to the religion board, I'm just not that interested).

I am the authority in my home, and my children and their friends adhere. My children are self-policing for good behavior, though they rarely quote Paul.

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Sat, 06-26-2010 - 1:57pm

IME, the type of willful misunderstanding you're engaging in isn't typical of most Christian believers, who look for common ground and unity. We clearly have a different opinion on what the term Christian means, which is why I suggested that it would be better to go to the RD board. There you will many who agree with you,

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Sat, 06-26-2010 - 2:26pm

Unfortunately, nothing says "devote Christian" more than judging the beliefs of other Christians.

I disagree with you, on a debate board, and I didn't understand your original point then, and I still don't. No worries, I'll move on.

Edited to add, I don't understand the NRA position on the 2nd amendment in much the same way I didn't understand your response to OP. I apologize if I seemed disrespectful of your beliefs, that was not my intent, but I had a little free time and your response did not make sense to me, though I apparently Puss got it. I still don't. Consider me dense, but really, it's nothing "willful" or personal. It's my own very hard-earned Christian beliefs, and a life-long struggle in my journey, maybe you have a clearer path. Really, I'm not being snarky.




Edited 6/26/2010 8:54 pm ET by chestnuthooligan

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