A sidebar about slang and trends

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A sidebar about slang and trends
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Thu, 07-31-2003 - 2:44pm
Since I was ridiculed for using slang, I started thinking about what parents *keep up on* when it comes to their kids. How many parents are in the know about what slang terms mean, what is *in*, what goes on in the subculture of teens, etc? So I was wanting to conduct a bit of a poll...

If your child asked to go to a *rave*, would you know what it was? Would you know what it involves and what may or may not go on there?

As far as todays drug market, do you know what the terms *Crystal*, *X*, *roofies* or *meth* mean? Do you know which drugs are most popular for teens and how they are obtained/used?

What sexual trends have been taking place in junior high schools?

What does a teardrop tattoo under ones cheek mean?

These are all pretty basic and random, but I was just wondering how much parents today keep themselves informed about the possible scenarios for their children? I personally believe knowledge is power and I prefer to keep myself informed about stuff. And having Btdt on a LOT of teen issues, I try to keep myself informed in advance of what may or may not happen.

My dd has said I am a *hip* mom-not in the way of trying to be her friend, but in the almost frustrating way (for her) of KNOWING what goes on in her world. She cant get much by me, and I intend to keep it that way.


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Dj

"Now when I need help, I look in the mirror" ~Kanye West~

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Wed, 08-06-2003 - 3:34pm
Hold on, the way one dresses had nothing to do with using hip-hop slang, but maybe more to do with what kind of shape you're in. I for one, am not boring, and my closet is not boring. I have a gorgeous pair of beaded low rise jeans that my husband bought for me because he hates what he calls the "Laura Ashley" prim look. I had to draw the line at the midriff tops though, I have to remind him that I'm not a teenager and that no, I will not get a pierced navel (he asked).

And the music, I listen to everything from the Doors to Nelly, and love it all. Damn you Audrey, now I can't get the 80's Flock of Seagulls music out of my head, I'll be humming it all day!

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Registered: 04-02-2003
Wed, 08-06-2003 - 4:20pm
You are correct. I typed the wrong thing and I should have known better. My mom was in a methadone program to get off of heroine when I was a child.

Usually if the child was a boy, he wore a tux (mind you dads brought their sons as well), for little girls it was usually a nice dress, but not necessarily matching. Mostly teenage fathers did this. We were only allowed to buy two prom tickets each, so usually the kid was the date. There were several people I graduated with who had kids who were 5 years old. About 35% of my graduating class were parents of at least an infant. My kids second cousin (their father's cousin) graduated w/ a 4 and a 1.5 year old. Teenage pregnancy was and still is a problem in this city.

...And I thought I was young to have my first at 22. At 26 w/ a 4 year old and a 21 month old I have the youngest kids of my group of friends. One friend of mine is 26 with a 10 year old and my other close friend is 27 w/ a 9 and a 6 year old. Only one friend of min (who is my age) has babies.

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Wed, 08-06-2003 - 7:21pm
So why is wearing a pair of low rise jeans from the juniors department different from using an occasional slang term? In good shape or no, why dont you equate that with *acting like a teenager*? I dont wear midriff tops either, and took out my belly-piercing when I was pg with my ds, yet because I might sometimes use *trendy* slang, you implied I am trying to be something I'm not. But you dont think wearing clothes that 16yo's are wearing is the same??? I dont get your reasoning.

dj

Dj

"Now when I need help, I look in the mirror" ~Kanye West~

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Wed, 08-06-2003 - 9:09pm
Raves don't have "rock music." ;-) It's techno, or one of its relatives that they play. You're far more likely, in fact, to hear hip-hop than "rock" at a rave! I even heard the Sugar Hill Gang at one in NYC.

Are you in Baltimore? I used to go to raves there (10 years ago), and Ecstasy was typically called "E," though occasionally I heard it called "X," so you're right about that one. People used to say they were "X-ing." I don't know if they still say it tho.

 

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 08-07-2003 - 4:25am
Ok, the rule is, if YOU do it, it's trying to be something you're not. If trip59 does it, it's acceptable and the only people who don't do it are either jealous of her, hopeless old and out of fashion, cocktail napkin stupid, boring and ugly.

See the difference?

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Thu, 08-07-2003 - 9:03am
They weren't from the juniors dept, they were from a small boutique in town that caters to women (not teens) who like to wear stylish and different clothes. The teens would never shop there.

I would have to characterize my clothing style very much like Katie Courics. She doesn't look like a teenager, but she doesn't dress like a boring suburban mom either. She wears some edgy clothes, but I'm sure nothing that her daughters would wear (well, maybe not).

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Thu, 08-07-2003 - 9:29am
It's all rock music to my ears. I hate techno. I mean I really do. (this and I listen to rap music :-)

Now here lately the only "raves" I've heard about was for techno/rock type stuff. They have them fairly often around the Fells Point area. For hip-hop/rap usually they do their parties at clubs and they aren't called raves, but like I said, I am prone to be wrong about these things. I'm not a particularly big party animal (I'm more poetry pub than hip-hop club).

I've never heard Ecstacy called "X" but then, thank God, I don't run with the crowd that uses Ecstacy. I've only seen one person on it ever, a friend of mines boyfriend. From what I can see it makes you (excuse my French) very horny. I'll leave it at that.

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Thu, 08-07-2003 - 10:41am
The point being, why is considered okay in your mind for a person to wear trendy and *edgy* clothes, yet using any slang term is considered trying to be something you're not? Its not feasible to use a slang term here and there and not be *acting like a teenager*? You cannot see the hypocrisy?

I dont know, I've seen Katie Couric in some God-awful outfits. I can guarantee her daughter wouldnt wear them...

dj

Dj

"Now when I need help, I look in the mirror" ~Kanye West~

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 08-07-2003 - 11:02am
Big. Huge. Newsflash.

Young people have been dying drug related deaths for a long time now, all over the place, and because of all sorts of things. Since by and large most rave attendees come out alive, there is no more point in trying to blame a drug related death on a rave, than there ever was in blaming one on a rock concert. Or anything else. What you want is the kid who you feel confident could end up at a rave, and be responsible enough to keep themselves safe. What you don't want, is a kid you feel you need to tail constantly, because you have no reason to believe that if they did happen upon a rave, that they'd have any ability to manage themselves responsibly. Am I going to allow my "children" to go to raves? Of course not. I'm not even going to allow my "children" to go to bars, why in the world would I allow my "children" to go to a rave? However, my goal before ensuring they end up in the percentage of teens and young adults that never manage to get themselves to one, my permission not withstanding, is to ensure that if they do, they have their personal acts together and end up in the percentage that doesn't suffer negative life outcomes from the experience.

The 20 yr old? Oh, I don't know what his parents thought. Maybe they thought they could continue to forbid him to do things at 20 as they had at 14, and that would keep him safe?

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Thu, 08-07-2003 - 11:13am
No, I can't. I see a big difference in trying to sound like a teen and dressing in "hip" yet age-appropriate clothing. I'm not talking about dressing like Brittney Spears here, if I did see a 40 something mom dressing like her, it would be rather amusing, don't you think?

As far as the god awful outfits, we all have different tastes in fashion, think of how boring it would be if everyone dressed the same. I happen to love her wardrobe. Different strokes for different folks.

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