Speaking of Poverty

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Speaking of Poverty
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 9:18am

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130314/NEWS/303140038/IN-DEPTH-Study-County-s-poorer-kids-hit-hard-by-asthma

 

Poor kids have greater chances of asthma, Substandard housing being a contributing factor.  What would you change/add if money was no object?  What are your thoughts and experiences? 

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 11:54am

puss_boo_kay wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>You're absolutely right Marla, I AM removed from poverty - no experience in it but we're not so segreated from it either and I don't buy the political nonsense that in orer to help those in poverty we must eliminate poverty!</blockquote></p><p>You don't?  So.....you would prefer to KEEP poverty?</p><p>Why?</p>

No, I'm not saying we keep the poor poor, But there will always be the disparity of wealth.  Do you think that should ever be equal?

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 11:55am
Yes, I did PKA, Read it.

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:00pm

just_another_marla wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">geschichtsgal</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;just_another_marla&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;jamblessedthree&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;Well, The reality is that poverty isn't only an economic conditon but also a culture. No, I really don't mean to bring Romney into this but you just did!&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Poverty is a CULTURE? &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;WT HOLY F? &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Could you please expand on this? Because I think we live in separate realities.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is actually a lot of research in social work about the culture of poverty.  Not people who are poor for a brief time due to specific circumstances, but families and areas where everyone is impoverished and has been for generations.  People who live in this culture tend to relate to the world differently than people who don't. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>I understand the concept of generational poverty, but I don't think most people remain in poverty out of choice. I think what is seen academically here as "culture" is really just the consequence of a life lived on the margins. I'm not sure many here would really understand what poverty does to someone's self-esteem and confidence levels. </p>

The culture of poverty is a set of beliefs and some of that is the belief/mentality:  once entitled always entitled, It exists whether you want to believe it or not and I think it's sad.  That's probably why we don't make headway when it comes to helping the poor either.

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:00pm
"The culture of poverty is a set of beliefs and some of that is the belief is once entitled always entitled," -------- I am not sure you read that right, wherever you got that. But let's say you were right, how would that affect asthma rates in the kids?
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:02pm
"No, I'm not saying we keep the poor poor, But there will always be the disparity of wealth." ---------- It is possible to have disparity of wealth, even a large disparity, and still not having the bottom 20% living in abject poverty.
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:06pm

Economic poverty will skip generations if the culture continues. 

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:07pm

Deleted, Double post. 

 


 


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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:13pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
You're absolutely right Marla, I AM removed from poverty - no experience in it but we're not so segreated from it either and I don't buy the political nonsense that in orer to help those in poverty we must eliminate poverty!

Seriously? What exactly do you think the social justice arm of the Catholic church aims to do then, Jam?

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:19pm
"Economic poverty will skip generations if the culture continues." ------- Sorry, but don't you mean the opposite? If it skipped generations, it would mean that poor people would have kids who were not poor and then a few generations later they would be poor again.
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:20pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
The culture of poverty is a set of beliefs and some of that is the belief/mentality:  once entitled always entitled, It exists whether you want to believe it or not and I think it's sad.  That's probably why we don't make headway when it comes to helping the poor either.</p>

So you believe that poor people are choosing to be poor because they feel entitled to aid? Is that what you're trying to get at?

I think poverty is too complex to have a single solution, or to be caused by a single factor. 

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