Starting off Sunday fluff

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Starting off Sunday fluff
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Sun, 09-29-2013 - 10:46am

We've gone to church, watching Meet The Press, took ground beef out of my freezer for meatballs, jotting notes down for the week then planning for the week ahead, clip coupons, and planning to watch the Cleveland Browns/Bengals game later, Ultimate rivals!  Lol! 

How is your Sunday going? 

 

 

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:36pm
You have a very rigid and limited understanding of the term "working hours," Thardy. I m provided 24/7 Internet use by my employer, and with the exception of about fifteen hours a week which are rigidly scheduled, no restrictions or even guidance about which hours I use to get my work done. Judging from the feedback I get and the glowing annual evaluations I've gotten, my employers are quite satisfied with my work.
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Registered: 09-01-2002
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:30pm

bordwithyou wrote:
Most people would not have to ask their employers what is and isn't acceptable in regard to the internet; don't most places have pretty clear Internet use policies?

You confirm my understanding ~ most employees wouldn't dare ask their employers if they can play on the internet.  And this isn't about policy.  This is about hiding internet playtime from an employer.  If any employer has a policy saying an employee can go onto iVillage as much as is done here during working hours, he'd be a fool. 

And no one was talking about the compensation of a neurosurgeon either.

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:26pm
I don't think it's either unethical or improper for someone to self-publish half-naked pics. Just unwise.
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Registered: 09-01-2002
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:24pm

bordwithyou wrote:
Yes, I have purchased mass cards many times for the souls of deceased friends.

I think that's tacky.  But you have the etiquette books written by previous Popes I guess.

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-08-2009
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:23pm
Most people would not have to ask their employers what is and isn't acceptable in regard to the internet; don't most places have pretty clear Internet use policies?
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Registered: 09-01-2002
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:21pm

savcal2011 wrote:
  And it defintely isn't poor etiquette.  So where is that similarity between ethics and etiquette? There may be one, but an example hasn't been provide yet.</p>

I think it's poor etiquette and just poor form to steal from one's employer, and in the case Martha Stewart, the shareholders and taxpayers.  

Who pays your salary?  The taxpayers?  The students? 

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:14pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>I think there are a lot of simiarities b/w ethics and etiquette.  I doubt everybody sees eye to eye about that tho, I mean you may not be breaking any laws when you play on internet message boards at work but I'd call it unethical and improper, YMMV.  </p>

Is that across the board or do you have personal exemptions?  But I think you have the right to that opinion, just as I believe it's unethical and improper to post half naked photos of oneself on the internet.  Ymmv of course on that as well.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:13pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;I think there are a lot of simiarities b/w ethics and etiquette.  I doubt everybody see eye to eye about that tho, I mean you may not be breaking any laws when you play on internet message boards at work but I'd call it unethical and improper. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that whether playing on message boards is unethical and improper at work would very much be a case of situational ethics.  if one were being paid by the hour and there were rules against 'net use during that time, it would clearly be improper and unethical.   If one is not paid by the hour, and is allowed personal net use in the office, then it's neither unethical nor improper.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>That is one way some employees excuse their unethical conduct.  The answer lies with one's employer.  Just ask him or her.  </p>

I don't think it's so much an excuse, just reality.   I have a wide variety of friends who work and the internet policies vary from place to place.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:11pm

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;I think there are a lot of simiarities b/w ethics and etiquette.  I doubt everybody see eye to eye about that tho, I mean you may not be breaking any laws when you play on internet message boards at work but I'd call it unethical and improper. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>I think that whether playing on message boards is unethical and improper at work would very much be a case of situational ethics.  if one were being paid by the hour and there were rules against 'net use during that time, it would clearly be improper and unethical.   If one is not paid by the hour, and is allowed personal net use in the office, then it's neither unethical nor improper.</p>

And it defintely isn't poor etiquette.  So where is that similarity between ethics and etiquette? There may be one, but an example hasn't been provide yet.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 7:11pm

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;I think there are a lot of simiarities b/w ethics and etiquette.  I doubt everybody see eye to eye about that tho, I mean you may not be breaking any laws when you play on internet message boards at work but I'd call it unethical and improper. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>I think that whether playing on message boards is unethical and improper at work would very much be a case of situational ethics.  if one were being paid by the hour and there were rules against 'net use during that time, it would clearly be improper and unethical.   If one is not paid by the hour, and is allowed personal net use in the office, then it's neither unethical nor improper.</p>

That is one way some employees excuse their unethical conduct.  The answer lies with one's employer.  Just ask him or her. 

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