Tats for Tuesday

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Tats for Tuesday
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Tue, 07-30-2013 - 10:21am

Why is your job an ideal one?
b.  What is the ideal job and why if you are not there?

What are you looking forward to?

Where do you see yourself five years from now?  Ten (if you can project that far ahead, Lol!)?

Bonus:  Do you like the name George?

 


 


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Wed, 07-31-2013 - 3:52pm

kickboxingbabe2013 wrote:
Sorry, our salaries are not public.

Which is why I asked you.

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Registered: 07-30-2013
Wed, 07-31-2013 - 3:53pm
kickboxingbabe2013 wrote:
Sorry, our salaries are not public.

Which is why I asked you.

Would you be willing to announce your salary if it was not public? 
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Registered: 09-01-2002
Wed, 07-31-2013 - 3:53pm

kickboxingbabe2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">That has not been my experience - and I work with people with terminal degrees on a daily basis. I am surrounded by them.  I don't think you can speak for *most* people.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Are these "people" ones who are not the "bread winners" in their home or ever had to be?</span></strong></p>

The people with terminal degrees I've known can barely use a spoon.  They live out of the trunks of their cars and probably aren't too social, if you know what I mean.  I think Savcal was exaggerating.  People "with terminal degrees" are extremely rare.  Those are the people with 3 and 4 PhDs. 

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 07-31-2013 - 3:58pm

kickboxingbabe2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">College savings/payments is figured into our CS calculations so that we both contribute to college savings.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">So you don't have to save the FULL amount, correct? Besides the cs you get monthly and the medical bills he provides and other things you have already discussed for him to pay, he is helping out with college. I am sure he got a raise for moving to Germany too, right? Did you go back to court to re-configure that in too? </span></strong></p>

ACtually, he is furloughed one day a week right now, so his income has taken a hit. 

 

Our CS is still based upon our 2003 salaries. Neither of us have petitioned the court for a change, even though we are entitled to do so.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 07-31-2013 - 3:59pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;kickboxingbabe2013&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;div style="border-bottom-color:#cccccc; border-bottom-width:1px; border-bottom-style:solid; font-size:13px; text-align:left"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Getting a better paying job is only one potential reason to get a higher education.  There are many more. And for many, increased income isn't even at the top of the list. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;I guess for people who don't NEED the money, it is not but I am pretty sure MOST people in the world would LIKE to make as much as they can with their degrees.&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<strong>That has not been my experience - and I work with people with terminal degrees on a daily basis. I am surrounded by them.  I don't think you can speak for *most* people.</strong>&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>You're trying to speak for *most* people too.  Again, not my experience.  And your argument is certainly a novel one, especially with the economy as it's been.</p>

I'm not attempting to speak for *most*. I've said *many*.  Huge difference.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 07-31-2013 - 4:01pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;geschichtsgal&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Around here, they don't hire teachers unless they have a master's degree or a ton of years of experience.  So, teachers graduate with a Master of Education, but I don't think anyone decides to become a teacher because it is a well-paid profession.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PhDs, especially those that have been/are researchers, can make double or triple the money by working for industry. Yet there are hundreds  (in my division alone) that are here, working for a public university instead.  Why? Well, obviously they're all about the money and that's why they got a PhD.  (sarcasm disclaimer)&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Oh, so your argument is that people with a PhD don't get better paying jobs than those without the PhD.  Um, that was NEVER true!  </p>

No, I'm saying that many people with a PhD have chosen lower paying jobs than their degree *could* get them.  There are a lot of research jobs in the private sector that require a PhD that pay significantly more than what a faculty PhD gets paid.  And in fact, there are some non-phD required research jobs that have a higher salary than a PhD at a public university.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 07-31-2013 - 4:02pm

kickboxingbabe2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">yes, they are.</span></p><p style="text-align:left"><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>So I wouldn't be able to find theirs either, right? Bawhahhaaa....</span></span></strong></p>

I never said you couldn't find theirs.

But really, leave my staff out of this. That would be a new low - even for you.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 07-30-2013
Wed, 07-31-2013 - 4:02pm

ACtually, he is furloughed one day a week right now, so his income has taken a hit. 

Our CS is still based upon our 2003 salaries. Neither of us have petitioned the court for a change, even though we are entitled to do so.

Why wouldn't you?

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Wed, 07-31-2013 - 4:03pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">kickboxingbabe2013</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"&gt;Most of these families, the PhD faculty member is the main breadwinner. Many even have SAH spouses.   Some have PhD faculty member spouses - that's quite common.  Some have spouses in a lower-paid position. And a few  have spouses in non-university jobs and that spouse is the higher earning spouse. And some don't have spouses at all!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"&gt;So you are not speaking of the people you work with in YOUR dept but PHD faculty members? Do YOUR employees all have master degrees?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Yes, I was speaking of faculty - and some administrative staff.   They are a good example of not getting an advanced degree solely for the earning power.</p><p>Three of my five employees have a bachelors degree - it's a requirement for their job.  None have a master's degree.  One will finish her degree in December.  </p>

Again, we have only been talking about getting the degree to get a better paying job.  We're comparing getting a masters for the job that pays better than the jobs which require only a bachelors.  The same thing with PhDs.  Those with a PhD are getting paid better than if they did not get their PhD.

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Wed, 07-31-2013 - 4:03pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">kickboxingbabe2013</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"&gt;<strong>That has not been my experience - and I work with <span style="text-decoration:underline">people with terminal degrees on a daily basis</span>. I am surrounded by them.  I don't think you can speak for *most* people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"&gt;Are these "people" ones who are not the "bread winners" in their home or ever had to be?</strong>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>The people with terminal degrees I've known can barely use a spoon.  They live out of the trunks of their cars and probably aren't too social, if you know what I mean.  I think Savcal was exaggerating.  People "with terminal degrees" are extremely rare.  Those are the people with 3 and 4 PhDs.  </p>

And you would be wrong:

"A terminal degreeis the highest academic degree in a given field of study. An earned academic (or research) doctorate[1] such as a Doctorate of Philosophy (Ph.D. or D. Phil.) is considered the terminal degree in most academic fields of study in the U.S."

Also: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terminal+degree

 

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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