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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 8:24am

Do you send Christmas cards?

What is your favorite holiday movie?

Do you  have a favorite holiday cookie?

What's for dinner on Christmas?

Number five, Are you surprised by Time magazine's pick for person of the year? 

 

 

 

 

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:22pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">pumpkinangel</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;thardy2001&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;jamblessedthree&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;That's why the Pope is liked so much, there's nothing to disagree with him about.  I just hope he's Pope long enough for me and my family to visit Vatican City...  ;-)&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   It's much easier and better to get a coffee table book with great photos of the sistine chapel ceiling up close.  &amp;lt;img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" border="0" /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here you go thardy...you clearly said easier and better in your post.  Unless you would like to claim that coffee table book of photos is the original of the sistine chapel?  I mean stranger things have been claimed about the Vatican before...&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Hmm, if I thought that, then I wouldn't have gone to the Sistine Chapel  Anyway, my comment to Jamblessed was about something you couldn't know.  Like Bord agreed, beingin the Chapel is a bit crowded.  Maybe you'll go there someday.</p>

Yet you recommend simply looking at a coffee table book to jams, so I'm not sure you have been there.  And if you had read the posts, you would know that I have been there.  I also have a coffee table book...not the same.  

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:22pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">pumpkinangel</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;thardy2001&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;jamblessedthree&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;That's why the Pope is liked so much, there's nothing to disagree with him about.  I just hope he's Pope long enough for me and my family to visit Vatican City...  ;-)&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   It's much easier and better to get a coffee table book with great photos of the sistine chapel ceiling up close.  &amp;lt;img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" border="0" /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here you go thardy...you clearly said easier and better in your post.  Unless you would like to claim that coffee table book of photos is the original of the sistine chapel?  I mean stranger things have been claimed about the Vatican before...&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Hmm, if I thought that, then I wouldn't have gone to the Sistine Chapel  Anyway, my comment to Jamblessed was about something you couldn't know.  Like Bord agreed, beingin the Chapel is a bit crowded.  Maybe you'll go there someday.</p>

Yet you recommend simply looking at a coffee table book to jams, so I'm not sure you have been there.  And if you had read the posts, you would know that I have been there.  I also have a coffee table book...not the same.  

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:24pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>I agree thardy, there will be married priests before women priests. That obviously doesn't sit well with her, Poor thing.</blockquote></p><p>Really? You think that's a good thing? Women as second class citizens in the Church is good? Oh my., I hope Pope Francis appoints a woman as Cardinal. He may do it to watch all your heads explode.</p><p>http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/could-pope-francis-make-women-cardinals-a-pipe-dream-and-an-opening/2013/10/17/b3d9fcec-376c-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html</p>

Can you answer the obvious question?  If it doesn't bother me, Jamblessed and the millions of other Catholic women worldwide....why does it bother you?

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:26pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>  This isn't about what's better or who's right ... it's about the absurdity of debating yourself. </blockquote></p><p>Oh yes, there is kind of an apposite and parallel definition of repeating oneself over and over hoping for a different outcome.  I posted, then in response to PKA's off-the-mark questions, I repeated what I said.  Then more silly questions, then more of my same explanations using ever simpler diction.  Alas, I am an eternal optimist.  <img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" border="0" /></p><p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>   YOU said: "Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   It's much easier and &lt;strong&gt;better&lt;/strong&gt; to get a coffee table book with great photos of the sistine chapel ceiling up close."  </blockquote></p><p>Yes.  I did.</p><p>&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then you turned around and said: "Has anyone here said a coffee table book is better than the original??"&lt;/p&gt;
</p><p>Yes, yes, I did.</p><p><img 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You might want to note that I didn't ask a question, I made a statement.  I believe you quoted my passage as well, when you asked me a question.  See, it happens all the time.

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:26pm

Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   

Dad and mom stayed for mass.  I don't get the fascination of just seeing art and history, there's the experience of it all too.

 

 

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:27pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em><span>Maybe standards are different across the country?</span></em></p><p><span>Of course.  </span></p>

This is a place Jams where one would state that differences are beautiful.  :)

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:29pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;thardy2001&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;jamblessedthree&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;That's why the Pope is liked so much, there's nothing to disagree with him about.  I just hope he's Pope long enough for me and my family to visit Vatican City...  ;-)&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   It's much easier and better to get a coffee table book with great photos of the sistine chapel ceiling up close.  &amp;lt;img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" border="0" /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Sistine Chapel is a bit of a zoo, but that's only a small part of Vatican City.   I'm glad I got to see the chapel (twice) but would not wait in line to see it again.  I love Rome and Vatican City.   It's been far too long since I've been to Italy.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Well, my mom wasn't in the best of health when she went there.  They saw it all and I am impressed and moved by pictures to this day.  </p>

It is impressive from pictures, I am a big fan of the Renaissance period of art as well as Michelangelo, way more moving in person.  I think art usually is much more moving in person, than a picture in a book.

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:29pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em><span>Not worth the visit unless you're determined to "meet" this Pope.   </span></em></p><p><span>Dad and mom stayed for mass.  I don't get the fascination of just seeing art and history, there's the experience of it all too.</span></p>

Exactly!  That's why it's good to view art from more than the couch and the coffee table book.  Totally agree, it is an experience.

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:30pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">chestnuthooligan</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;I agree thardy, there will be married priests before women priests. That obviously doesn't sit well with her, Poor thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Really? You think that's a good thing? Women as second class citizens in the Church is good? Oh my., I hope Pope Francis appoints a woman as Cardinal. He may do it to watch all your heads explode.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/could-pope-francis-make-women-cardinals-a-pipe-dream-and-an-opening/2013/10/17/b3d9fcec-376c-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Can you answer the obvious question?  If it doesn't bother me, Jamblessed and the millions of other Catholic women worldwide....why does it bother you?</p>

How do you know it doesn't bothers millions of woman worldwide?

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Thu, 12-12-2013 - 9:35pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>I agree thardy, there will be married priests before women priests. That obviously doesn't sit well with her, Poor thing.</blockquote></p><p>Really? You think that's a good thing? Women as second class citizens in the Church is good? Oh my., I hope Pope Francis appoints a woman as Cardinal. He may do it to watch all your heads explode.</p><p>http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/could-pope-francis-make-women-cardinals-a-pipe-dream-and-an-opening/2013/10/17/b3d9fcec-376c-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html</p>

Not so fast.  Pope Francis washed the feet of sinners, of women and of the sick last Easter season, That's what Jesuits, I mean Jesus did.  

 

 

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