Time to move on

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Time to move on
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Sun, 04-27-2014 - 1:47pm

1. How many times have you moved?

2. Will this week be busy for you?

3. Do you have Mother's day plans yet?

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:17pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>You do realize that some women make enough money in their marriage that if they did have to live by themselves, divorce, death, they could support themselves, right? SMH</p>

You do realize that this has nothing to do with why young women should live on their own for a time before tying themselves to anyone--man OR woman?  You DO realize this isn't about YOU at all?  Right?  Right?

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:23pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p><span>I'm not talking to any young women about their future plans whether to move out of their parent's home and learn to actually support themselves without a dh or boyfriend, so my advice isn't resonating with anyone.  It is sad that an adult woman cannot see the value in it thought.  You must not see the value in that, since you are so proud that Molly did not have that experience.  Is that what you will be recommending to your daughters?</span></p><p>Hmm.....there are many women, and men for that, that went straight from their childhood home to living with someone else. Not sure why you would think I didnt learn to support myself. You do realize that some women make enough money in their marriage that if they did have to live by themselves, divorce, death, they could support themselves, right? SMH</p>

Sorry you cannot read the why:   and learn to actually support themselves without a dh or boyfriend,

The other sentences you put in there--never said any of those aren't true or that I didn't understand that.  SMFH obviously.

 I'l play your "game" that you call debating--which is not--...Do you even realize that there are many women who have never lived by theirselves and have a hard time when forced at some point to live on their own due to death or divorce...someitmes they cannot support themselves and sometimes it isn't all about money.  It's called self-reliance.  

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:26pm

grapthars_hammer wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">blackandwhitemolly</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;You do realize that some women make enough money in their marriage that if they did have to live by themselves, divorce, death, they could support themselves, right? SMH&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>You do realize that this has nothing to do with why young women should live on their own for a time before tying themselves to anyone--man OR woman?  You DO realize this isn't about YOU at all?  Right?  Right?</p>

Well that's impossible...

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:52pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">grapthars_hammer</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;gt;What the..  I never said you friend requested me, Lol.  Nevermind and you're right, I should have never friend requested you in the first place, You're creepier than I thought. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If that's supposed to hurt my feelings or something, you're missing the mark.  Your opinion is meaningless to me; it has absolutely no bearing on my day or my worth or my intrinsic value as a human.  You're this insignificant and strangely obsessed woman on the internet, looking for some kind of relevance.  Stick to finding it with Molly.  You two deserve each other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I feel sorry for you when I can be bothered to think anything at all of you.  But not really sorry enough to dwell on it.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>No, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings.  I speak the truth, You are a creep who has stalked others but can only find it in your lonesome self to call out one person about it, How very big girlish of you...  And save your pity, Talk about fine company tho.  </p>

I think your truth meter is a bit out of wack as well.   Do you realize that your words fit your actions?  Well except you call out others while loling with information that was gleaned by your buddy's stalking...how very big girlish of you. 

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:55pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">You've never lived alone?</span></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">Nope.</span></strong></em></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">Proudly written, Where's the like button!  </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">I had my own place for a short period of time before marrying DH, We then lived in a couple different apartment homes before buying too.  <br /></span></strong></p>

What would be proud about never having lived alone?  

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 7:57pm

litlmiss_cantbewrong wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px"&gt;You've never lived alone?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px"&gt;Nope.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px"&gt;Proudly written, Where's the like button!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px"&gt;I had my own place for a short period of time before marrying DH, We then lived in a couple different apartment homes before buying too.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Why would anyone be proud of that?  I would be extremely disappointed in my daughters if they never lived on their own before getting married--and living with said future husband would not count.</p>

i plan to stronglly encourage both of my kids to live alone at some point after college, I think it's a great experience, just like its a great experience learning to live with someone other than a relative or future spouse.  

PumpkinAngel

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 8:04pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<div style="color:#111111; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size:13px; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; font-weight:normal; text-align:left; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; background-color:#ffffff"><div></div></div><div style="border-bottom-color:#cccccc; border-bottom-width:1px; border-bottom-style:solid; color:#111111; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size:13px; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; font-weight:normal; text-align:left; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; background-color:#ffffff"><div><div><div><p><em><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">You've never lived alone?</span></em></p><p><em><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">Nope.</span></strong></em></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">Proudly written, Where's the like button! </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">I had my own place for a short period of time before marrying DH, We then lived in a couple different apartment homes before buying too.  </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px"><br /></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="text-align:left; font-size:13px">Oh,  I am sure there will be an attack attached to this soon. Lol.</span></strong></p></div></div></div></div>

Nope, just curious...Jams seems to be in charge of attacks in this thread, so you might want to check with her, she has a few going already.  

PumpkinAngel

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 8:05pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p><span>I'm not talking to any young women about their future plans whether to move out of their parent's home and learn to actually support themselves without a dh or boyfriend, so my advice isn't resonating with anyone.  It is sad that an adult woman cannot see the value in it thought.  You must not see the value in that, since you are so proud that Molly did not have that experience.  Is that what you will be recommending to your daughters?</span></p><p>Hmm.....there are many women, and men for that, that went straight from their childhood home to living with someone else. Not sure why you would think I didnt learn to support myself. You do realize that some women make enough money in their marriage that if they did have to live by themselves, divorce, death, they could support themselves, right? SMH</p>

How did you learn to support yourself when you had either your parents or your dh living with you and sharing the living space?

PumpkinAngel

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 8:11pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p><span>Why would anyone be proud of that?  I would be extremely disappointed in my daughters if they never lived on their own before getting married--and living with said future husband would not count.</span></p><p><span>Why? </span></p>

Then there's that..  Why?  And if mom would be so disappointed if said child never lived on their own first where else is she disappointed.  Conditions and all that.....

 

 

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Mon, 04-28-2014 - 8:13pm

How important is self reliance to you cantbewrong? I am genuinely interested b/c I think it means different things to different people. If somebody is raised to be self reliant it could mean s/he relies so much on herself to do things, to get things done that there is no room for compromise or anybody else's input. OTOH it could mean that - if the situation presented itself - s/he could still handle things after a death or a divorce, And thirdly (which I would hope most people fall under) there is a balance b/w being able to handle it on your own and having a good support network too. Frankly, the third doesn't require you to live on your own first however, at least not in my opinion.

 

 

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