Two for Tuesday

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Two for Tuesday
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Wed, 04-10-2013 - 10:43am

1. If you could choose one dream job, what would it be?

2. Amanda Bynes, crazy?

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Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:19pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Are you sure about that Marla.. There's no grant money or other subsidized funding to help families get by? Somebody helps you eat, live and go to school, Somebody will always be there to pick you up when you fall too.... To deny that exists is dellusional, Perhaps that is why some don't get ahead! </p><p> </p>

Do tell how does "Somebody helps you eat, live and go to school," help one deal with mental health issues? Does a roof and food cure people of mental diseases????

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:20pm
I super big glittery puffy heart you marla.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:26pm

just_another_marla wrote:
<p>I screened calls for a fancy rehab place. I was instructed to coax each caller's story from them, make them feel comfortable, let them know that we were there to help. I listened to six or seven dozen of these stories each and every day and most were the same. They needed help and couldn't find any. Of course, the rehab place I was answering phone calls for only accepted people with money, so I only converted a handful--like ten, maybe twelve--cases over for a real counselor to call back over a seven month period. Everyone else I referred to dial 211. Have you ever dialed 211? </p><p>I listened to people cry. I heard adult men sobbing into the phone. The hopelessness, the helplessness, and the agony of frustration over the lack of options, coupled with the desperation was absolutely heart-breaking.</p><p>I also have a brother who has been addicted to cocaine since he was 17. He's also an alcoholic. His wife uses heroin; she's currently in prison. My grandmother attends AA meetings on a daily basis for prescription drug abuse.</p><p>What does your experience with drug addicts look like? </p><p>I never said that there was no funding. I'm just tacking on the idea that there isn't ENOUGH.</p><p>But please, feel free to find a place that will accept someone from the depths of addiction--no money, no family, that has an immediate opening, and prove me wrong. Please. If you can prove me wrong that would be great, because it would mean that the needs of the people in your community are being served.</p>

There's no post here that glorifies addiction.  But I won't paint recovery/help/outreach as some bleak, helpless thing either.  I beg to differ about how limited you think services are, Maybe it comes down to real life experiences - living in a lower socio-economic area exposes me to a lot of things, Even in a small town there are numerous services, You can't prove otherwise.  Further, Dh's side is full of addicts who will die denying problems exist, That's not the fault of a system so please don't confuse the two.  Your posts come across as rhetoric and they carry a lot of somber and burden which are reminscent of the families/indivduals we're talking about.   I know there's more hope than that b/c I see it too. 

 


 


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:29pm
I expect bias if you grew up poor. I did not so my views are less foggy.

 


 


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Registered: 05-31-2011
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:32pm

You have an opportunity to prove me wrong. Find the name of a single rehab center that will do everything that you're claiming and I'll call and verify. You don't even have to find a place in your immediate area; find one in any random place. Find one for me that will pay for rehab and give a grant to feed a family and go to school too.

Once I'm proven wrong, I'll bow down to your infinite awesomeness. I'll even change my screen name on iV to "Jams_Fan". 

Could you also explain to me how my real life experience is rhetoric? And what exactly I can learn from someone who guesses what life is like for a drug addict from the comfort of their suburb?

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Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:38pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
I expect bias if you grew up poor. I did not so my views are less foggy.

What does growing up poor have to do with anything? Please expand on this.

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:47pm

<You can't prove otherwise>

Jams, Marla did prove otherwise. It's up to you to provide a counterpoint. Do you have any?

<Dh's side is full of addicts who will die denying problems exist, That's not the fault of a system so please don't confuse the two. >

Marla offered up proof of people desperate for help, not the deniers. Can you dispute her argument?

<Your posts come across as rhetoric>

I've got to agree here on one of definitions of rhetoric, but they definitely have the feeling of  sincerity, IMO. Marla's posts are thoughtful, effective and persuasive, unlike those of other posters (I include myself in that critique).

< I know there's more hope than that b/c I see it too. >

Hope and despair go hand-in-hand in dealing with addiction, but treatment is expensive. There's no way around that.

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:48pm
Excuse me? Growing up poor means your views are "foggy?" That has got to be the most bigoted statement I have read in fifteen years in this board. Congratulations on reaching a new low.
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Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:53pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
I expect bias if you grew up poor. I did not so my views are less foggy.

Holy crap on toast!  Talk about delusional; your claim is the working definition of it.

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Registered: 02-24-2010
Wed, 04-10-2013 - 7:59pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
I expect bias if you grew up poor. I did not so my views are less foggy.

Except if you didn't grow up poor and you aren't poor now and you've never been poor inbetween, how is that unbiased?  I think that is more like you've never walked in those people's shoes/lack of experience.  But that has nothing to do with ability to be unbiased.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
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