WOHMs - could you afford to take 3 mo...

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Mon, 11-05-2007 - 11:13am

WOHMs - could you afford to take 3 months of totally unpaid leave?



  • Yes, we have enough saved up for that
  • Yes, we could save up enough for that
  • Yes, DH makes enough to get us by
  • No
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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 9:22pm
There are also jobs that it's not very pleasant to live near. I imagine that just about nobody who works in an airport or for an airline actually WANTS to live anywhere near an airport. Then there are industrial jobs where it really is best for everyone if those are kept by zoning far, far away from residential areas. Which of course requires a commute.
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 9:24pm
I'm not surpised. Counties can be quite large and one can stay within the same county and yet have a long commute.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 9:29pm
Do you think that residential areas should be zoned for hard industry? Or do you think it's ok for those people to have long commutes in order to spare people from living near the industries they work for? I think it's good for SOME businesses to be in residential areas, and older zoning laws do support that. But there are some industries which just shouldn't be plinked down in residential areas asnd it's a GOOD thing that the employees have long commutes. (Although the least well paid of those employees likely also have the shortest commutes. Because some industry just sucks to live near.)
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 9:43pm
College towns are very nice places to live. But lots of people work in jobs that it would be unpleasant to live near. Yet those jobs do need to exist. The airline industry, for one obvious example.
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 9:50pm
No. There are other choices. Many people could well afford to live near where they work but they very deliberately don't. For a number of jobs, the closer you get to work, the cheaper the housing gets. Only the people at the bottom of the pay scale live near work for those jobs. Have you ever smelled a paper mill? Why would anyone who worked for a paper company CHOOSE to live near it if their salary supported anything farther away? Same with a lot of other hard industry. The residential areas closest are the cheapest because it's unpleasant to live near. I don't think you are considering the whole gamut of jobs in making this declaration that people should live near where they work in an ideal world. In an ideal world, NOBODY would live near a paper mill. Yet paper mills must exist. And people must work in them in order for them to exist.
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Registered: 12-06-2004
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 11:09pm

LOL!

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Registered: 12-07-2003
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 11:28pm

I'm going to try to address all of your points in one shot, but let me know if I've left anything out.

1. The model you are talking about-- commuting from the suburbs to a central city-- makes up only 19% of all metropolitan commutes. Once you subtract the 9% of people in metropolitan areas that reverse commute (live in central cities and commute to the suburbs), you would have about 10% more people in cities. That's about 10 million people. Spread out among the 258 cities with a population over 100,000, it would be about 40,000 people for each city. And if you distributed the gain in population in proportion to the size of the city (i.e. NY or Boston would gain more than Houston or Memphis), I can't imagine that the increase in population would be so hellish as to make cities unfeasible. Far more people commute from one suburb to another. So living and working in the same community does not mean all cities would be hellishly overcrowded.

2. I think there are far more people who commute that work in fairly benign industries than those who work in industries unpleasant to live near (i.e. airports, paper mills, chicken farms, etc.) Furthermore, working in one of these industries does not necessary dictate needing to live 25+ miles away from it.

3. I prefer duplication of services and businesses to "walmartization" and urban sprawl.

Of course, since I'm talking about my ideal world, all paper mills and chicken farms would smell like roses ;)




Edited 11/10/2007 12:17 am ET by geschichtsgal
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Registered: 07-26-2007
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 11:45pm
Yeah, and? again, the name "sleepover" seems to be more ironic than anything else. The non-availability of beds isn't what causes the lack of sleep.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-26-2007
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 11:48pm

That's a LIE, AND you know it, as I am very much a TV addict and I have said numerous times that I would and HAVE cut out cable when necessary.

Why would you lie about something that is SO easy to disprove?

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Kitty

"Armour.com also has some wonderful tips for emergency preparedness, which include laying in a big supply of canned meat products. When the end comes, you can ponder whether you've been eating the Four Horses of the Apocalypse."--Moon.Pie.Zappa


Click on the Virginia Rescue Center and search for Roxey, VA5165

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Kitty

"BTW, I hate Lifetime. Their movies will suck you in and all of a sudden you've watched 3 in a row, used every tissue in t

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-26-2007
Fri, 11-09-2007 - 11:59pm

To me, furniture can last a lifetime or more if taken care of well.

Really? I believe every irony meter in America just exploded....

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Kitty

"Armour.com also has some wonderful tips for emergency preparedness, which include laying in a big supply of canned meat products. When the end comes, you can ponder whether you've been eating the Four Horses of the Apocalypse."--Moon.Pie.Zappa


Click on the Virginia Rescue Center and search for Roxey, VA5165

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Kitty

"BTW, I hate Lifetime. Their movies will suck you in and all of a sudden you've watched 3 in a row, used every tissue in t

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