Are measles death rates lower, or not?

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joolsplus2
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
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 Fri, 05-02-2003 - 8:20pm
So the CDC (from the Scarlet Fever post) seems to indicate that measles incidence and deaths have significantly decreased since vaccinating started, but some people seem to disagree with that (they seem to be saying incidence is lower, but deaths per capita of those infected, are the same).

Is there any real, peer-reviewed, published in a national journal science to support any view opposing the CDC figures?

Julie

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truncheon
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Sat, 05-03-2003 - 3:20am
Deaths had declined by 99.4% before vaccination in the UK, and we still have deaths, 50% are in vaccinated children, most or all of them ill or malnourished, or UNDER the age of vaccination. The CDC are just a propaganda outfit for the vaccine boys. And measles deaths are preventable with vitamin therapy. You can see here http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html
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catherina
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Sat, 05-03-2003 - 11:42am
well, my info was based on the fact that in 1920ties Germany, 3% of each birth cohort died of the measles (see here for a historical canadian view with an average death rate of 3% - 5 in children and just under 2% in adults - so much btw for measles are more benign in children: http://meds.queensu.ca/medicine/paeds/oth/history.shtml), and in the 1989-91 US epidemic, 2.2% of all measles infected died, which seems a rather pityful rate (that is from the CDC page).

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kidoctr
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Mon, 05-05-2003 - 1:04am
Hi Jools - Here's exactly what the CDC says in response to the misperception that diseases "significantly declined prior to vaccination":

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/6mishome.htm#Diseaseshadalready

In addition, the death rate that Jan mentioned from my website is actually from this page (Jan neglected to include a link):

http://pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites/graphs.html

What was pointed out on this page was that the death rate from measles was very constant for over a decade (>300 deaths per year) in the US until vaccinations were widely used. At that point, we saw a decline in the number of deaths - even down to ZERO in 1998. It's clear to me that although the mortality from measles declined and then plateaued prior to vaccination, the mortality resumed dropping once the vaccine was introduced.

>>Is there any real, peer-reviewed, published in a national journal science to support any view opposing the CDC figures?"<<

Not that I know of.

Eve

 
 
truncheon
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Wed, 05-07-2003 - 2:51pm
Measles death rate had declined by 99.4% before vaccination http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

And we still get deaths, 50% in vaccinated children. And many deaths are due to immune suppressing drugs, and the allopaths wont use vitamins which would prevent deaths, possibly ALL deaths, just because they are welded to the drug industry http://www.whale.to/v/measles_deaths.html

john

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joolsplus2
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Wed, 05-07-2003 - 3:42pm
Those statistics (the first set) seem a little dated, and the population sample quite small...is there nothing on the whale.to site that is a little newer?

Julie

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catherina
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Are measles death rates lower, or not?
 Wed, 05-07-2003 - 4:15pm
would be too embarrassing to update the statistics as too many countries have eradicated measles by now with their efficient immunization programs. I still cannot grasp how anyone can still claim the "vaccination shifts the "harmless" childhood diseases into adulthood" when measles cases in the US totaled 37 in 2002.

Catherina, in Germany, one of the major exporters of measles

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