Autism and SIDS listed on PI's

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Autism and SIDS listed on PI's
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Thu, 11-12-2009 - 9:42pm

Not really a debate, just a very simple question.

Citizen -

Since you ignore most of the straight-forward questions you’re asked, let’s see how you do with this one:

If vaccines can not cause/trigger Autism and SIDS then why are both listed on the package insert as an adverse event of the Tripedia vaccine?

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../UCM101580.pdf

And no, you have not seen me on any anti-vax websites because I RARELY ever visit them, much less post on one of them. I don’t buy the products sold on them either.

I'm asking you for a simple, straight-forward answer. Don't bring George Bush into it, don't call me any names, don't try to change the subject, just answer the question.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 11-21-2009 - 8:58pm

If vaccines can not cause/trigger Autism and SIDS then why are both listed on the package insert as an adverse event of the Tripedia vaccine?
Here is Jon’s answer -

“Because printing all reported adverse effects is required by law. Remember that VAERS is a reporting database and does not imply causation. It simply absorbs these reports - no matter the cause”

Am I the only one who wonders why we don’t have a *VAERS* that COULD offer the factual numbers? It’s hilariously funny how our current system works – If one child who has not had a flu vaccine comes down with the flu and ten of her vaccinated friends and family also got the flu – it’s the one unvaccinated child who caused all this destruction, the numbers are used in a matter-of-fact way. They are used to make people believe that an unvaccinated child constantly carries disease and is always ready to pounce. But if thousands report SIDS and Autism immediately following a vaccine – then the VAERS numbers are just no good, not even a tiny bit reliable…only gathered for the fun of it!

The current system allows all sorts of reasons why the data is only valid when used to put vaccines in a positive light. Any other time, there’s a thousand reasons why the data is just invalid. Evidence of that is shown by using drowning and vehicle accidents in the number of deaths, when common sense tells you the death had nothing to do with the vaccine.
Using tactics like this – how will causation ever be discovered?

“The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births.34”

What exactly IS an “open-label safety study”?

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Sat, 11-21-2009 - 10:11pm

An open label study is one where both the scientist and the patient know what the treatment being given is. Double blind studies are thought to produce objective results, since neither

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 11-22-2009 - 3:38pm
Thanks for the link - very interesting. Reading that makes me want to read the OLE study referenced. Do you have a link for it Jon? TIA
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Registered: 11-06-2009
Mon, 11-23-2009 - 10:46am
No link at hand, be sure to go to PubMed Central and you should be able to find it.
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Registered: 04-09-2008
Wed, 11-25-2009 - 10:31am

They are supposed to, but, as we've discussed previously with the FDA's figures of how many are reported, obviously most do not.

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