Autism rates/California -- this is scary

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Autism rates/California -- this is scary
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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 10:41am
Calif. Autism Rate Doubles in Four Years -Study

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20030513/sc_nm/health_autism_dc_1

"LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Autism cases in California nearly doubled over the past four years to more than 20,000 -- a phenomenon whose cause may be difficult to pinpoint because it is not related to population increases or the way the disorder is diagnosed, a state study said on Tuesday."

"The study has proven two very clear things: the validity of the diagnosis has not changed and the kids are not moving to California for the services," the study's author, Dr. Marian Sigman, said. "That still leaves us with the puzzle of why are we getting this increase in number of cases."

This is very scary -- I am praying the cause of this rise will be found and will be something we can eliminate.

Keeley

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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 12:45pm
Wow- that is weird. Has anyone determined whether the rates are similar in the rest of the country?
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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 2:14pm
That's creepy. I wonder if there are any autism "clusters" like there are for cancer. Could it be the air quality?

Here's something, what if it's due to something that we've taken away from pregnant moms. Something that actually protected against autism. Like, say, cigarettes or liquor or tuna. I sure hope they find out the cause.

Lucky

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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 6:57pm
I hope it's something simple, like maybe Tylenol, that IS easy to avoid, and not some obscure chemical byproduct in the water supplies that is tough to pin down and remove :(.

I knew a little boy with autism, and it was SO hard for the family...and he was a relatively mild case...it's frightening to read about rates rising so astronomically :(

I hope they figure out the cause soon!


Edited 5/14/2003 7:07:36 PM ET by joolsplus2

Julie

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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 7:21pm
You know, alot more people are on antidepressants. I wonder......

Lucky

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Wed, 05-14-2003 - 8:10pm
Now *that'* and intriguing proposition...maybe it gets straight through the placenta, or even a metabolite of it does, and acts just as it does in an adult brain...maybe too much serotonin floating around in a fetus is a bad thing...or...oh, man, I could uneducatedly speculate for hours on this one....better nip it in the bud before I go searching whale.to to support any wacky ides i get....

Julie

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Thu, 05-15-2003 - 7:42am
Interesting....I know from some of the mothers' boards that OB/GYN's have been quick to reassure the relative safety of many drugs- anti-anxiety & anti-depressant drugs, in particular. Also- a new one, Zofran - usually used for controlling nausea in chemo patients) is being used on an ever-increasing basis during pregnancy for morning sickness.

I was always quite judicious about what I ate or ingested during pregnancy- preferring my prenatals be the only pill I took. So, use of the above drugs always made me uneasy- thinking of the effect on the fetus.

As jools was saying- might not a drug that alters brain chemistry ALSO be detrimental to the developing brain of the fetus?

~miki

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Thu, 05-15-2003 - 7:57am
And the doctors have lightened up on caffiene recommendations, too.

Also, look at what men are ingesting, too. Could the genes get screwed up on the sperm side?

And, women are having babies later in life, but I am sure they looked into that. Clomid is one drug that comes to mind. As does progesterone. I did not take either for ds, he's 5, but when I tried to get pg a second time, I took both. It says specifically, right on the bottle, that you should not take Prometrium (progesterone) while pregnant. But that is EXACTLY what I would have done. I had a luteal phase defect from low progesterone and that was the solution. Sounded simple and safe. I am almost thankful I never got pg. I can't imagine the second guessing I would have done had something been wrong with the baby.

Sure is something to think about.

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Sun, 05-18-2003 - 1:33am
The only problem is that autism isn't totally genetic, so I think your theories are quackery and downright insulting to the mothers who took care of themselves during pregnancy and avoided all exposures and still ended up with children with autism. Hep B and Hib were added in the late eighties and early nineties. They contained thimerasol. Do the math. Also, take into consideration that environmental exposure to mercury has increased as well. You may want to consider that males are more susceptible to mercury poisoning, and there is a genetic susceptibility as well. I would think that anyone who has any regard for children would want this link examined to the fullest extent possible
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Sun, 05-18-2003 - 6:18am
Liz,

are you sure that the general exposure to mercury from food/environmental sources has increased over the past 15 years? Except for some areas where the exposure is high, due to resident industry, I was under the impression that the household exposure has gone down dramatically. This is starting with the mercury thermometers, but what stuck most prominently in my mind is the mercurochrome desinfectant that was in EVERY European household to treat cuts and abrasion (so basically open wounds) and that contained a very high percentage of mercury. People get less amalgam fillings too. So I would think that the general exposure has gone down rather than up. Do have number indicating the contrary?

Catherina

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Sun, 05-18-2003 - 9:18pm
Liz,

Sorry if you were insulted by my post. Certainly that was not my intent.

Lucky.

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