bacterial meningitis

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Registered: 02-20-2007
bacterial meningitis
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Wed, 07-29-2009 - 11:25pm

knowing the risks of this disease, would still choose to not vax your kid?

"About 2,600 people get meningococcal disease each year in the U.S. 10 to 5 percent of these people die, in spite of treatment with antibiotics. Of those who live, another 11to19 percent lose their arms or legs, become deaf, have problems with their nervous systems, become mentally retarded, or suffer seizures or strokes."

http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/Adolescent/meningitis_vaccine.html

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 07-30-2009 - 12:07am

You bet ya! Think about it ---

2600 out of how many Americans plus how many illegal immigrants?

What's the latest stats on Autism? On SIDS?

A MUCH scarier number!

How 'bout you take a little tour through history and look at the rate of Meningococcal Disease in each vaccinating country BEFORE the HIB Vaccine was introduced and then AFTER the HIB Vaccine was introduced.

In addition to that you may wish to educate yourself about the shot AND the disease (not just the scary scare tactics). Do you know how many strains of this disease your child may come in contact with? Do you have *any* clue how you will protect your child from the other 9 strains (which there is no vaccine for)? How quickly does this vaccine wane? Have you given any thoughts at all of primary and secondary vaccine failure?

If you have convinced yourself that this vaccine even works, how 'bout you explain to us all why the rate of the disease is not falling, but instead growing?

Ask that of your doctor after you yourself have done your own homework. Does your doctor even know? Or does he only know what the pharmaceutical companies tell him?

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Thu, 07-30-2009 - 12:32am

ok, yeah, I'll bite. First of all in the US there are approximately 3000 cases of bacterial meningitis each year (not all are deadly btw). Guess who makes up the majority of those cases.

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Registered: 02-20-2007
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 6:12pm

Even if its a rare disease, I don't want to take that risk. I will definitely get this vaccination for my child. And after learning about the disease - I went out and got the vaccine.

As for autism, I don't believe its linked to this particular vaccine. In fact, I don't really buy that its linked to vaccines at all.

What's interesting to me is how parents who choose to not vax their child, don't want their non-vaxed kid around other non-vaxed kids. They are afraid their child will catch something! I find that interesting and curious.

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 6:49pm

I have never met a mom that does not vaccinate her children that prefers the company of vaccinated children.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 10:02pm

Those Menactra vaccines irritate me immensely...

"This is what meningitis looks like the day before it kills a child"

Meh.

Meningitis is a condition, not an infectious disease.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 08-01-2009 - 9:44pm

September 30, 2005

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FDA and CDC Issue Alert on Menactra Meningococcal Vaccine and Guillain Barre Syndrome

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are alerting consumers and health care providers to five reports of Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) following administration of Meningococcal Conjugate Vaccine A, C, Y, and W135 (trade name Menactra), manufactured by Sanofi Pasteur. It is not known yet whether these cases were caused by the vaccine or are coincidental. FDA and CDC are sharing this information with the public now and actively investigating the situation because of its potentially serious nature.

Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) is a serious neurological disorder that can occur, often in healthy individuals, either spontaneously or after certain infections. GBS typically causes increasing weakness in the legs and arms that can be severe and require hospitalization.

Meningococcal infection, which Menactra prevents, is a major cause of bacterial meningitis, affecting approximately 1 in 100,000 people annually. The infection can be life threatening:
10-14 percent of cases are fatal and 11-19 percent of survivors may have permanent disability.

According to Jesse Goodman, MD, Director of FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, at the present time there are no changes in recommendations for vaccination; individuals should continue to follow their doctors' recommendations. FDA and CDC are not able to determine if any or all of the cases were due to vaccination. The current information is very preliminary and the two agencies are continuing to evaluate the situation.

Because of the potentially serious nature of this matter, FDA and CDC are asking any persons with knowledge of any possible cases of GBS occurring after Menactra to report them to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to help the agencies further evaluate the matter. Individuals can report to VAERS on the web at www.vaers.hhs.gov <http://www.vaers.hhs.gov> or by phone at 1-800-822-7967.

The five cases of GBS reported following administration of Menactra occurred in individuals living in NY, OH, PA, and NJ. All five patients were 17 or 18 years of age and developed weakness or abnormal sensations in the arms or legs, two-four weeks after vaccination. All individuals are reported to be recovering or to have recovered. More than 2.5 million doses of Menactra vaccine have been distributed to date. The rate of GBS based on the number of cases reported following administration of Menactra is similar to what might have been expected to occur by coincidence, that is, even without vaccination. However, the timing of the events is of concern. Also, vaccine adverse events are not always reported to FDA so there may be additional cases of which we are unaware at this time.

Prelicensure studies conducted by Sanofi Pasteur of more than 7000 recipients of Menactra showed no GBS cases. CDC conducted a rapid study using available health care organization databases and found that no cases of GBS have been reported to date among 110,000 Menactra recipients.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 08-01-2009 - 9:48pm

FDA and CDC Update Information on Menactra Meningococcal Vaccine and Guillain Barre Syndrome

October 20, 2006

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are updating a previous alert to consumers and health care providers regarding reports of Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) following administration of Meningococcal Conjugate Vaccine A, C, Y, and W135 (trade name Menactra), manufactured by sanofi pasteur. In October 2005, FDA and CDC reported 5 cases of GBS following administration of Menactra.

GBS is a serious, rare neurological disorder that can occur, often in healthy individuals, either spontaneously or after certain infections. GBS typically causes increasing weakness in leg, arm and other muscles that can be severe and require hospitalization. GBS usually resolves on its own, however some people may have residual neurological deficits.

To date a total of 15 confirmed cases of GBS among individuals 11-19 years of age occurring within six weeks of vaccination with Menactra have been reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Two additional cases have been confirmed in persons 20 years of age and older. All individuals are reported to be recovering or have recovered. While the cases reported suggest a small increased risk of GBS following immunization with Menactra, the limitations in VAERS, and the uncertainty regarding background incidence rates for GBS require that these findings be viewed with caution. At this time, CDC and FDA cannot determine with certainty whether Menactra does increase the risk of GBS in persons who receive the vaccine and, if so, to what degree (the current data suggests an estimated possible increase of approximately 1.25 GBS cases for every million vaccinnees, but this estimate has many uncertainties).

Menactra prevents meningococcal disease, which is a major cause of bacterial meningitis (an infection of the lining of the brain and spinal cord) and blood stream infections. Meningococcal disease affects approximately 1 in 100,000 people ages 11-19 annually. The infection can be life threatening: 10-14 percent of cases are fatal and 11-19 percent of survivors may have permanent disability.

At the present time, there are no changes in recommendations for vaccination and individuals should continue to follow their doctors' recommendations. CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will be reviewing this information at its next meeting, October 25-26, 2006.

FDA and CDC are continuing to monitor the situation and are asking any persons with knowledge of any possible cases of GBS occurring after receiving Menactra to report them to VAERS to help the agencies further evaluate the matter. Individuals can report to VAERS on the web or by phone at 1-800-822-7967.

Studies of more than 7,000 recipients performed by sanofi pasteur before the licensure of the vaccine showed no GBS cases. An analysis of Menactra use within the Vaccine Safety Datalink, a database of vaccine information from eight large managed care organizations, revealed that as of September 20, 2006, a total of 126,506 doses had been delivered and, of those, no cases of GBS have been observed among vaccine recipients ages 11-19 within six weeks of vaccination. Additional, larger studies are being planned to provide a more definitive assessment.

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Anybody heard anything lately about those "larger studies" that were planned back in 2006? Do we have a "more definitive assessment" yet?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 08-01-2009 - 9:53pm

"Prelicensure studies conducted by Sanofi Pasteur"

Let's see...who makes that vaccine again?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 08-01-2009 - 11:31pm

GBS, on the other-hand, is much more scary than Meningococcal Disease.

If you get Meningococcal Disease and you're healthy, chances are you'll survive it. That's a big *IF* since there's less than 3000 cases of it in the US each year. My kids don't seem to be that big a risk for catching it - how bout yours?

Guillain-Barre Syndrome is a well known side effect of the vaccine and others as well (see video). (File attached is the package insert, from the manufacturer.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk6Qfg6RXOg

My children aren't at risk since they don't travel to Africa much these days.

http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2010/chapter-2/meningococcal-disease.aspx

Most importantly, you should read this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18451758?ordinalpos=4&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Why would a group of medical professionals come forward and say that the vaccine was only necessary if a child was at risk but then all of a sudden, nothing else is said about it and the vaccines are back on the schedule?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 08-02-2009 - 12:05am

Hopefully, you do understand that even vaccinated people get the diseases???

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/meningococcal/w135/en/index.html

"In addition, the current polysaccharide vaccine has some drawbacks for vaccination campaigns in sub-Saharan Africa: it does not provide long-lasting protection, hence the need for repeated vaccination of at least 80% of the population each time an epidemic occurs; logistic demands and costs are very high; the vaccine has no effect on colonization or transmission of the organism within populations, so travelers returning from an epidemic zone can transmit the infection to close contacts."

I was shocked when my Chickenpox vaccinated child got the Chickenpox. I thought that vaccinated children didn't get the Chickenpox. I was told my husband would die if my children got the Chickenpox because my husband never had Chickenpox...turns out neither was true!

Maybe you don't know as much as you think you know? I too was blinded by scare tactics, group-speak and hearsay...I understand!

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