CP vax and shingles...

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CP vax and shingles...
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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 2:13pm
Just wondering.....

Isn't shingles one of those things you could get if you had chicken pox as a kid? I just always believed that. It's probably false.

Anyways, do you think the cp vax could make a shingles breakout worse? Or better? Or, if you didn't get the vax and never got cp, would you be less likely to get shingles?

Eve? Anyone?

Lucky

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 5:11pm
Some children are getting an outbreak of shingles after being vaccinated with the chicken pox vaccine. Normally you don't see shingles in infants and young children, it's usually in adults over 40, and more commonly in those closer to age 60.

I have read that after having chickenpox, the virus remains dormant in your system, and sometimes remerges in the later years as shingles.

"Chickenpox Vaccine Increases Risk for Shingles"

http://muellerchiropractic.com/publications/healthwatch/topical/vaccine/chickenpox_vaccine_increases_ris.htm

Christine

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 11:54pm
You're not wrong, Lucky - the only way to develop shingles (herpes zoster) is following infection with chickenpox. The issue of shingles wrt varivax is unclear. From what I have seen/read, the feeling is that the incidence of shingles after varivax in children will possibly be lower (http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/varicella/faqs-clinic-disease.htm#shingle-1-later). The problem is that older adults who have latent virus appear to depend on "boosting" from wild cp to keep the latent virus from reactivating and manifesting as shingles. Although the incidence of shingles in older adults might go up with widespread use of varivax, the current thought is that vaccinated children will grow up and be less likely to develop shingles (eventually "replacing" the older population and the incidence of shingles would go down). There is also a shingles vaccine under study which, interestingly, is based on the varivax vaccine. I'll have to try and dig up the article I was reading - I think it was in JAMA.

>>"Anyways, do you think the cp vax could make a shingles breakout worse? Or better?"<<

Both, probably.

>>"Or, if you didn't get the vax and never got cp, would you be less likely to get shingles?"<<

An unvaccinated person who never gets CP would not be at risk of shingles (by definition).

Eve

 
 
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Fri, 04-25-2003 - 6:53am
Christine and Eve,

Thanks for the info. My son was vaxed for it. My DH got cp as a chld. I never got it but did test positive for the exposure.

It sure seems weird to me, with a 5yo in school, that there isn't the widespread chickenpox outbreaks like there used to be. It's been years since I've seen a kid with that telltale scaring or scabbing from after the disease.

Very interesting stuff. I really don't know how I feel about the vax since cp just doesn't seem like such a horrible thing. It would be nice to see shingles cases lowered. Adults just don't handle things as well as kids.....lol.

Lucky