Don't you worry??

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Don't you worry??
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Tue, 08-11-2009 - 11:56am

So .. yesterday was Elijahs 6 mo well child visit. As I've mentioned before we do one injection at a time .. I'm plenty happy with this decision, he'll be vaccinated, which DH and I agree is important, and I feel better about possible reactions, etc. Our ped is fine with this .. she knows that I know what the recommended schedule is, etc. but has told me that he's my baby and I have to do what I feel is the best for him... did I mention that I love our ped? :)

Anyway ... so the nurse came in yesterday to let the ped know she had forgotten to order two other vaccines for Elijah .. the ped told her we were only getting one and would come back for the other .. and that we hadn't started Hep B yet at all, so we'd worry about that later. The nurse kinda gave me "the eye" and told me its traumatic to the baby to keep coming back for shots. (uh, huh ..) So after the ped left the room, the nurse came back to give the shots and while she was drawing up the vaccine, etc. she said to me "I just don't understand, don't you worry about bringing something home from work?" ... (knowing that I work at the hospital). I quickly replied "Not HepB .. I wear my gloves, wash my hands and take the proper precautions. There is no way for me to bring Hep B home to him, and he's got the rest of his vaccines, so no, I don't worry." She didn't say another word.

UGH! The things I worry about bringing home are things that can't be vaccinated against .. MRSA, VRE, C.Diff, even TB or chickenpox (which he is too young to be vacc'd against) or some other off-the-wall infectious disease -- but really .. Hep B?! She makes me embarrassed for nurses everywhere!

Just had to share ;)




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Registered: 06-16-2009
Tue, 08-11-2009 - 4:25pm
I must say stories like this make me thankful that the nurses (and of course the doctor)

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 08-12-2009 - 2:29pm

Boy! That makes me yearn for the day a nurse told me that my baby would die if I didn't vaccinate against chickenpox. Then the doctors who told me my husband would die - assuming he WOULD get the disease...not everyone gets the full-blown disease. Not everyone who is immune to the chickenpox has had the vaccine or presented with symptoms - my husband never had symptoms but has the immunity.

It is totally off-putting to hear a medical professional say something so stupid, but it's happened to me more than a few times and I've been avoiding the doctor because of it. I'll go for ER care if needed, but otherwise, if I needed a doctor quick, one in my area, I would NOT choose a Pediatrician, I would go to an adult doctor close-by. But I have looked at the vaccine preventable diseases enough to know what the rash looks like and what symptoms to expect. Parents need to do that because even vaccinated kids get the diseases sometimes.

That nurse better be glad I didn't know then - what I know now, because now, my partially vaccinated child and my never-vaccinated child has had the chickenpox (the husband didn't get chickenpox). And knowing what I know now, I could not be nice. The way she said it infuriates me today, but the day my daughter was born, I was too elated to care. Today - I would remain calm, just not too nice. My sarcastic bitc# side would certainly show itself...why do they always have the impression that the shot is 100% and will last until the child is old enough for the behavior that leads to the disease?

Babies are only at risk for Hep B if their mother has it. There's a test to find out if Mom has it. A simple blood-test.

I can just hear me now... “No, my 6 month old has promised that he won’t sneak out of his crib and catch the subway to the nearest street corner where other babies are shootin-up dope. He's also promised to save himself and keep his virginity until at least his teenage years. At that time - we will revisit this generally self-limiting disease and decide if maybe he can protect himself from Hep B in the same exact way he protects himself from HIV! Besides, when I have sex with my geriatric patients, I always put the condom on for the old farts, their hands are just too *shaky* - so I do it for 'um."

It's infuriating to hear a doctor or nurse defend this vaccine as if its just like all the rest...UGH! The disease is only spread through blood and bodily fluids.

Here's an article where a MD replied with such that really irritated me...

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/230466/the_hepatitis_b_vaccine_what_the_manufacturers.html?cat=71#comments

You have to look in the comments section for the MD's post.

It makes me want to print-out this baby's story and take it with me to the pediatrician's office:

http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx (open with caution)

And then take the doctor some educational materials:

http://www.vaccineinformation.org/hepb/qandadis.asp

(from a trusted source, of course).

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Thu, 08-13-2009 - 1:02am

The "iansvoice" site came to mind when she was hounding me about the Hep B vaccine .. I've seen it before and read the story. Heart breaking. I'll check out the other links in the AM. I shared the story about the nurse at our ped's office with another nurse I work with tonight .. she was in agreement with me (and is also vaxing her baby on an alternative schedule). The more I talk to people, the more people I find who don't vaccinate on schedule.

Anyone happen to have the numbers for how many do/don't vaccinate on schedule/at all? They prob don't keep track, it might be embarrassing to the vaccine program in this country. :-\

They say not to take the Hep B vaccine if you have a life-threatening allergy to yeast ... how does one know he/she has a life-threatening allergy to yeast, unless their life has been threatened by yeast? :-p It seems funny..but really.. and you esp wouldn't know if you have an allergy if you've never even been able to eat something with yeast in it to know if you might react ...

... on a lighter note .. Elijah has promised not to have sex until he's married .. and no IV drugs, either ... at least that is what I will interpret his sweet little smile as meaning ;) hehehe




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Registered: 06-16-2009
Thu, 08-13-2009 - 2:33pm

They say not to take the Hep B vaccine if you have a life-threatening allergy to yeast ... how does one know he/she has a life-threatening allergy to yeast, unless their life has been threatened by yeast? :-p It seems funny..but really.. and you esp wouldn't know if you have an allergy if you've never even been able to eat something with yeast in it to know if you might react ...


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Registered: 06-16-2009
Thu, 08-13-2009 - 3:24pm

Anyone happen to have the numbers for how many do/don't vaccinate on schedule/at all? They prob don't keep track, it might be embarrassing to the vaccine program in this country. :-\


Well the CDC does track this. It would take a while to go through the numbers for each vax and give you an analysis, here is the page if you want to. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/stats-surv/imz-coverage.htm#nis


This page specifically breaks down the series by age (hep B at birth, 3 months, etc.) http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/stats-surv/nis/data/tables_0708.htm

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Fri, 08-14-2009 - 12:38am

Thanks! I'll def check out the links! Of my group of friends in IRL I can only think of 1 who might have vaccinated on schedule .. for the others, I know they didn't, and in talking with a couple friends who are pregnant, they aren't planning to vaccinate on schedule, either.

I enjoy reading between this board and vaccine support --and while I do vaccinate, and I think that the vaccines (on the whole) are important -- i find the atmosphere on this board to be much more open and relaxed! :)




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Registered: 04-09-2008
Wed, 09-09-2009 - 3:09pm

Hmm.... you mean you don't have any plans on having unprotected sex with some strange man that may have Hep B then going home and having sex with your infant son?? Or, sharing dirty injections with your son while you're shooting up heroine?

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Wed, 09-09-2009 - 3:14pm

Well, help me understand this Melissa.

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Thu, 09-10-2009 - 12:33am

To be honest -- I don't know. It's the compromise I was able to make with DH. He says we have to vaccinate .. I say I want to wait -- so we delay and go slowly. Elijah has not had any Hep B. Will not have Hep A, varicella, meningococcal, MMR or flu until he has to have them for school & again .. depending on what happens @ that time. The more I read, the less I'm convinced about the need for the vaccines.

He hasn't had his 6 month pneumo .. so he's really very limited in his vaccines, I guess. I've looked @ other country's schedules and what they vaccinate against & their rates of autism, etc.. so I guess I keep that in the back of my mind, also.

I'm torn b/c of the exposure I get at work. I would hate to bring something home to him .. i.e. flu / bacterial infections -- though good hand hygiene, clothing change right when I get home and leaving my shoes at the door can greatly reduce that risk -- and most of the nasty infections I could bring home cannot be vaccinated against anyway.

I guess I'm stuck somewhere in the middle at this point and I'm not convinced that no vaccines is the way to go .. though I've read enough to be wary about the ones that are recommended! If that makes any sense at all?

...and on your previous post -- I try to keep the IV drug use out of the home ;) .. oh, and DH is my one and only! hehe




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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 09-10-2009 - 7:36am
I don't want you to think I was barking - I was just curious.

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