Dr. Oz on "The View"

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Dr. Oz on "The View"
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Mon, 12-07-2009 - 4:36pm

I heard that Dr. Oz talked about his new book on "The View" this morning. The book is on pregnancy. He states that stress causes Autism and stress causes a child to become left-handed (WTH?). I'm not sure of the exact words, but none-the-less it left me sadly pissed off.

Nothing makes me angrier than to think that any Mom is blaming herself for her child's autism. Even though I have yet to find his exact words - I still intend to let him have it! How dare he!

Here is my first letter. I am sure I'll write another as soon as I can watch that show (tomorrow they will probably make it available on the web).

Dear Dr. Oz,

I was told that today you made a statement on “The View” that would make all parents of Autistic children feel responsible for their child’s brain damage. Are you serious? You think its okay for these parents to take-on this sort of guilt? You know there is no study proving that stress during pregnancy causes Autism – why would you make such a claim in your book??? That is the most outrageous and ridiculous statement ever made on that show, and I cannot believe that it was made by you, of all people. Could you please site the study that left you believing such a ridiculous claim? While you’re at it, please, also cite the one that says my natural delivery caused my child to be left-handed. And if you could post one more reference on your website, it would be highly useful and extremely helpful. On your website you make the following statement:

“The stories of parents describing the transformation of their previously healthy children into children with autism are strong and common, but large-scale epidemiologic studies in a number of countries clearly demonstrate that vaccines are not responsible for the autism epidemic.”

I would like for you to back that up with proof. Post those studies right there on your website for all to read – because obviously, you haven’t read them yourself. Also, please include the names of those who designed the study, as well as those who paid for it. If ya will, go ahead and highlight the parts that prove that autism is not caused by vaccines. You see, that way, everyone can clearly read the so-called proof for themselves.

The reason you see the numbers of Autism being among those with stressful deliveries is because most of the Mom’s who do not allow interventions during pregnancy are also the Mom’s who do not allow their children to be vaccinated on the current schedule. The more interventions a patient allows, the more interventions she will require. You and I both know that interventions often cause undue stress. But it certainly is not stress that causes Autism!

I think it is a sick and twisted world we live in when doctors fail to demand answers from science but then go and write a book making parents believe that they are to blame for their child’s autism. Be it normal stress, or medically induced stress – stress is NOT what causes autism. You have no proof of that, and to go on a national TV show and make that statement is a sick and disgusting thing to do! These poor parents have enough on their plate without this nonsense – you should be ashamed!!!

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Mon, 12-07-2009 - 5:50pm

I think you should verify that he said it first and what he said exactly (I am curious and could not find anything like that on my google search).

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Mon, 12-07-2009 - 6:21pm

I can't get it to load but I'll try later. This is the link for today's show:

http://abc.go.com/watch/the-view/167365/243293/the-view-127

Dana
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Mon, 12-07-2009 - 9:06pm

Yep he said it. After hearing it, I really am mad now, lol!

The way my doctors acted about my age during pregnancy, I made doubly sure to be as calm and happy as possible. I was never in stress during pregnancy, and the only stress I endured during delivery was when the doctor kept trying to push pitocin on me. My daughter is left-handed, she also uses the right hand for some things. But he seems to think that stress indicates which hand will be dominant. Of course he did say there is no "causation" - oh how I hate that word!

If anyone gets this book, I would love to find out where he is getting these ideas from. I'm sure he cited nothing in the book, but its possible that he got this idea from some study - I would love to read that study for myself. Any study cited probably ends with verbage like the rest, in other words, the study was a waste of time, we spent a lot of money and our only conclusion is not conclusive...

Dana
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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 1:13am

I was told that today you made a statement on “The View” that would make all parents of Autistic children feel responsible for their child’s brain damage. Are you serious? You think its okay for these parents to take-on this sort of guilt? You know there is no study proving that stress during pregnancy causes Autism – why would you make such a claim in your book???


How would his theory induce any more guilt than the guilt a parent would have if it is vaccines that cause autism?

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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 4:49pm

Well you could ask my best-friend why she has guilt. Her doctor told her to vaccinate, and she did. But that is not what she thinks caused her child's death. She is convinced that all the stress her husband put her through while pregnant was the reason her baby died of SIDS. She also believes that the reason he cried constantly was because of her stress. That baby was in pain, he was crying because his gut hurt!

A baby died while nursing on a plane just recently. That women will forever have guilt for falling asleep with her baby at the breast...something most of us have done many times, I did it daily with both of mine. I don't for one second, believe she accidentally smothered her baby. For that reason, I am upset that she will carry this guilt around for the rest of her life. I'm sure though, the C.O.D. will be SIDS. In her mind, do you think there is any difference in the two words - "smother" and "SIDS"??? I doubt it. Not when she is being told that vaccines had nothing to do with it. I bet she's never read the study done by Dr. Viera Scheibner who says that "Vaccination is the single most prevalent and most preventable cause of infant deaths". I bet she's never read the study done by Dr. William Torch either.

My mother feels guilty to this day, and all she did was follow the doctor's recommendations. If she had dropped my brother on his head and he had Autism as a result, don't you think her guilt would be more than it is now? Doing what a trusted white-coat tells you to do, and knowing that millions of babies get these vaccines without harm, and that your older child didn't get brain-damaged from her shots - don't you think that relieves at least A SMALL AMOUNT of her guilt? Parents have committed suicide and gone to jail over SIDS deaths and its not fair when the real reason is pharma greed. If you would simply get Miller's book you would have all this at your fingertips.

When it all comes out, hopefully during our lifetimes - then you remember this conversation and do consider how much guilt these parents took on...

Besides, how do you know whether or not a parent's childhood vaccines couldn't effect their offspring? You don't. But we do know that agent orange is effecting the offspring, and their offspring, and fairly soon we'll learn about the next generation and if they were harmed or not by something their own government did to their parents.

BTW - if you really want to protect the world of medicine, then you and your friend should try to find more never-vaccinated kids with Autism. That is something I cannot understand - wouldn't that solve this debate once and for all? We both know you can't find but a small few kids who fit that description. As I've said before, Hep B is a standard procedure in American hospitals, it is entirely possible that a child was vaccinated who should not have been. How many government school children have gotten the H1N1 shot when their parents clearly said no to the shot??? And you don't think that happens just as often in hospitals with new borns? Gee, most of these kids were capable of saying "My Mom said I wasn't getting the shot!" But they still got the shot didn't they? Newborn - not able to speak so who's gonna know? And don't think for a second that some nurses are not capable of such "I know better" behavior? They are only human, and we all have met those with the *greater than thou* attitudes. I wouldn't put it past a couple of them that I know. They would make it their mission to vaccinate a baby against the Mom's wishes. To pretend that crap like that doesn't happen would be naive.

Please don't anyone take to heart anything I say about nurses or doctors or scientists, they are all human and are all capable of wrong-doing. 'Doesn't mean all of them are bad people. My own experiences in the hospital made it very clear what some are capable of so I don't think it does anyone any favors to leave out bits and pieces of reality and pretend that everyone does everything by the book. They don't.

Dana
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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 4:57pm

"I don't think you should be so quick to dismiss everything that does not include vaccination as a cause."

Sorry, I've been at this way too long to still be there. Just because you are having a hard time with it, it makes it difficult to stand in my shoes. I've been at this for longer I guess. Plus, I've read Miller's book and then found the references and read the ones I could get my hands on. From there, all it takes is a little logic.

Also, I meant to say that I have not read the two links yet, but I will as soon as I get the chance. But first I'll find out where they came from. If studies are involved, I will want to know who designed the studies and who paid for them.

Dana
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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 5:30pm

Oh yea, I remember now. Your friend was a home-birther wasn't she?

Sorry, I forgot. The links are about stress, lol. I just assumed they would be more vaccine studies. I will finish reading them after my kids go to bed tonight.

There has to be a reason for these few who have Autism but were not vaccinated at all. Do you know the child? Does he/she have mild autism or Aspergers? I ask because I know there are degrees of Autism and my understanding of the spectrum is limited.

But seriously, it would help tremendously if someone, anyone, would try to pull these few people together and see what we can learn from them. There has to be a reason why *science* won't do the never vaccinated VS vaccinated studies. (Other than the one they give.)

Dana
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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 6:55pm

As I've said before, Hep B is a standard procedure in American hospitals, it is entirely possible that a child was vaccinated who should not have been. How many government school children have gotten the H1N1 shot when their parents clearly said no to the shot??? And you don't think that happens just as often in hospitals with new borns? Gee, most of these kids were capable of saying "My Mom said I wasn't getting the shot!" But they still got the shot didn't they? Newborn - not able to speak so who's gonna know? And don't think for a second that some nurses are not capable of such "I know better" behavior? They are only human, and we all have met those with the *greater than thou* attitudes. I wouldn't put it past a couple of them that I know. They would make it their mission to vaccinate a baby against the Mom's wishes. To pretend that crap like that doesn't happen would be naive.


None of this came into play with the child I know. Her mother had a homebirth. She did not do well baby visits because she did not believe in taking healthy children to the doctor.

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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 6:57pm
sorry did not read ahead I left the post open while I cooked dinner and finished writing when I came back.

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Tue, 12-08-2009 - 7:04pm

The child is high functioning.


Her older sibling also has autism, severe in nature, he was vaccinated though, regression occured immediately following his 12 month vaccinations.

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