Facts about the Hep B Vaccine

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Registered: 11-06-2009
Facts about the Hep B Vaccine
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Thu, 02-04-2010 - 3:58pm

There are number of posts and comments raising the question, "why should I vaccinate my newborn against Hepatitus B?"

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Thu, 02-04-2010 - 5:01pm

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Is this statement trying to coincide with the fact that studies suggesting safety to newborns have been extrapolated from much older populations?

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based on what available data that suggests it is even remotely safe?

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The link contained in this passage is NOT to the original MMWR that addressed the ACIP's original recommendation. From the 2005 MMWR follow-up linked in the op-ed:

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What placebo would that be?

The safety data available to the ACIP was scarce in 1990 / 1991 when the initial recommendations were made, and that's being kind. At the moment, vaccine reactions to this vaccine far outweigh the reported number of cases. Moreover, clinical trials that use newborns and compare them to adolescents do what exactly?

Here's where it began, best I can tell:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00041917.htm

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Using what available data was this recommendation approved?

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Thu, 02-04-2010 - 5:20pm

*smooch* I missed you more than I thought possible :o)

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Doh' - nice try. When did the hep B vaccine become universally recommended before hospital discharge? What safety data was available for this recommendation? Or do we just jump in with both feet, compare newborn immune system to 30 year olds and 20 years later assess the damage? Uh, yeah, that's what we do... It's called science-based-medicine.

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Registered: 03-25-2004
Thu, 02-04-2010 - 6:14pm
So because .3% of the US population carries Hep. B, then that's why we should vaccinate newborns, even before they have a mature immune system that is capable of fighting diseases?
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Registered: 01-21-2010
Thu, 02-04-2010 - 8:24pm

The highest numbers of liver cancer in the United States are caused by alcoholic cirrhosis, not chronic Hepatitis B infection!

Source:
Blumberg, B.S. and London, W.T. 1980. In Essex, M. et al. (eds) "Viruses in Naturally Occurring Cancer, Book A, Cold Spring Harbour Conferences on Cell Proliferation.")

This is insane, vaccinating newborns against a disease that is rare to begin with and then their chances of getting it it is almost non-existent, assuming Mom doesn't have it. Yep, Jamie said it best but I'll say it again - this is science based medicine at its finest!

Besides, who can prove that this vaccine AND its boosters have not already worn off before the child is even old enough to participate in drugs and sex?

Not even science based medicine!

Because why?

Well you have to actually perform studies and titers to get those type of answers...or you can just lie. The latter appears to work best for SBM.

People: always read the science that the pro-vax camp offers. You will find that most of the pieces don't even say what is suggested.

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Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 02-05-2010 - 4:53pm

Why is Hep B rare?

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Fri, 02-05-2010 - 4:59pm
It's because we vaccinate ebil permiskerous babeeezz
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Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 02-05-2010 - 5:02pm

*clunk*


Falls onto floor in hysterics...

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Registered: 01-21-2010
Sat, 02-06-2010 - 11:31am

Don't do what you're lying counterparts do and try and make us all believe that babies everywhere in the US had this disease before the shot came along...that's just disgusting Jon.

If you plan to try and say that the vaccine is the reason, then be prepared to back it up with PROOF (public records will do just fine).

You may want to read the CDC's MMWR (March 30, 2007); Vol.54.

Here is what parents need to know about this vaccine...

The human body is capable of exposure to Hep B and its capable of building its own natural immunity after that exposure.

The so-called "safety" study for this vaccine was done using 147 healthy infants and children who were monitored for only 5 DAYS!!!

Among 15% of adult test subjects again, monitored for only 5 days, the following complaints were recorded: arthralgia, myalgia, paresthesia, back pain, neck pain, lymphadenopathy, headache, fever, malaise, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pains, upper respiratory infection, earache and hypotension.

All that from test subjects who could TALK!!!

Its no wonder we have such high rates of earaches among children.

I won't go into what happens during an allergic reaction, for an idea of how horrible it can be, just google "Ian Gromowski" and look at the pictures as this baby goes from a healthy newborn to a dead newborn. It's very disturbing, so be prepared.

For more information, see:
http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Hepatitis-B.aspx

Read the package inserts for the Hep B vaccine. For MOST people, that's all it takes. Makes sense why the hospital doesn't just hand it over (the package insert) to the parent before they give this vaccine.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Mon, 02-08-2010 - 8:38am

Jon's trying to argue the point that because we are vaccinating babies, we've captured those that would be at risk and done a better job at eliminating the disease. The problem is, we haven't quantified the risk to the newborn / growing infant / toddler... nobody seems to care about that and since injury must be overt for them to even recognize or consider its ability to harm - it's easy to claim it's safe (how do you know otherwise?).

And if you are really objective (skeptical), you realize that not having any background data to measure the risk is... well... bad science. We antivaxxing nutbags don't have to run screaming from 'teh ebil dokters' and put on tin foil hats to make this point.