HELP!! H1N1 vaccine????

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-13-2006
HELP!! H1N1 vaccine????
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Fri, 08-21-2009 - 2:05pm

Okay, I've tried to do some research, but so much of what's out there is CDC/pharma driven, and I want to balance it out...

I'm nearly 6 mos pg and have a 2.5 y/o who will be starting preschool 1 day/week for 2 hrs next month. EVERYWHERE I look, it seems like everyone is pushing both of us toward getting it, though neither her pedi nor my OB has said word one about it. I spoke w/ a friend of mine who is in nursing school and is usually very knowledgeable and moderate about vaccinations, and she sent me a quick note telling me that we should both get it, but she'd explain why later.

I never get the flu vaccine and neither does DD. She gets vax'd but on a very modified schedule, and a selective one at that.

So my questions are: what are the statistics associated w/ H1N1? Is this an overblown panic? Is this any more serious than any other flu? I've read in places on this board that flu vaxes only perpetuate and spread the flu? How is that?

My inclination is that I will NOT be getting the vaccine while pg. They haven't had enough time to test the effects of the vaccine, and I am incredibly leery of vaccines that have been fast-tracked into mass production. I also would really rather DD not have it either, but with her starting preschool, I'm very leery about it. I'm also very worried about having a newborn in the very middle of 'flu season'...

Anyway, if you all could weigh in with thoughts and opinions (for or against, whatever it may be) I would appreciate it! TIA!!!

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 08-21-2009 - 2:58pm

I think the swine flu vaccine would be a terrible idea for children and pregnant women and I am very concerned that the public health officials seem to be pushing it so hard for those particular demographics.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 08-21-2009 - 3:16pm
There have been approximately 1100 deaths globally since April associated with H1N1.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 08-25-2009 - 1:56am

"There are on average 36,000 deaths a year associated with the "regular" flu *in the US*."

That statement gets more irritating everytime I read/hear it. How healthy are the majority of those included in that 36,000?

"How is that for perspective?"

To actually put it in perspective, lets compare that number to the actual number of people who get the flu and survive it, never even visiting the hospital. Now there's real perspective!!!

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 08-26-2009 - 12:02pm

"I've tried to do some research, but so much of what's out there is CDC/pharma driven, and I want to balance it out..."

I am very convinced that people are being paid to keep those search engines giving only pro-vax articles. Anything else is very hard to find unless you know what to search for. I've also noticed that many of the medical journals are making you pay to read many of the articles. Yet, the ones which put vaccines in a positive light are free.

There are also people being paid to man parenting websites. They are out there confusing parents to the point of overwhelming them into giving up the search for truth. I think that is how they finally came to the conclusion that parents aren't as dumb as they need us to be.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2008
Wed, 09-09-2009 - 9:02am

IMHO, I'm not getting the vacc, nor are my kids. Depending on which version is used, one will contain the adjuvant squalene, the other will not. The one that contains squalene is set as a single dose, while the one that does not is estimated for two shots. Studies that have been done on the adjuvant squalene (we'll ignore for a moment that it is not approved for use in the US) have concluded that it's a factor into GWS, Early onset of Alzheimer's, and Neurological damage. Whether however it is this vaccine that is used, or the other, we know it is being fast tracked by the FDA. We also know that according to a FR in June '09, "adjuvants" were added as receiving an immunity shield should damage or death result. We know that the manufacturers are indemnified as well as the Government, and anyone acting on behalf of, therefore, should a negative result occur, you're on your own. Trials that have been done in regard to safety at this point has been done on few adults and children with healthy immune systems and no underlying conditions. It is impossible to know what will happen when however it goes into mass use.

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