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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 7:34am

I posted this on another board and wanted to see what reactions (and feathers got ruffled) over here. I'm wondering if there are more anti-vaccinating or more pro-vaccinating women over here...


If you were to talk to grandparents and great-grandparents who had to deal with losing childhood friends to diseases and illnesses that we vaccinate and have under control today, they think everyone who doesn't is c-r-a-z-y for not. It's too bad that it may take hundreds of children dying per year for people to realize that vaccines aren't from the devil.


Also, it has always irked me that those who choose not to vaccinate rely on my kids being vaccinated (and everyone else's kids who are) to keep their succeptible children from becoming seriously sick. I mean if EVERYONE in America stopped vaccinating, hundreds of kids WOULD get sick and WOULD die. Period. There really is no debate there. So yes, it bugs me that MY oh-so-horrible-vaccination on my kids keeps those who aren't safer.

mrsvanoven


 

I'm a vaccinating,

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Registered: 06-08-2008
In reply to: not_a_princess
Mon, 11-24-2008 - 12:32am

Hi!


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In reply to: not_a_princess
Mon, 11-24-2008 - 7:23pm
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Go Team Edward :)

Did you see the movie? I thought it was horrible!









Edited 11/24/2008 7:24 pm ET by cl-tashlb
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In reply to: not_a_princess
Mon, 11-24-2008 - 9:25pm

I heard the same thing about the movie.

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In reply to: not_a_princess
Tue, 11-25-2008 - 7:53am

Gina - I just wanted to comment on your pic! It is SO great to see a baby in a helmet even on a Scooter!! This is how you avoid a fight later on - GO MAMMA! Your baby will accept the helmet and anything with wheels as the norm! YEAH!!!

I'm SO tired of seeing kids on our street out there without helmets. Both of mine wore one from the moment they were big enough to climb on a little 4-wheeled scooter. I did my senior thesis on helmet safety behaviors way back in the day...so this is something that I know a lot about and decided even before I had kids that they would NEVER ride without one!

And, my son had a bike accident in August 2007 the week before kindergarten started. Not sure what happened but he just flipped off and landed on his face. He broke his helmet (and his nose!)! And, he had a bruise on his forehead where the helmet impacted....if that had been his head on the concrete - well, at the VERY least he'd have a good brain injury if not be dead.

Anyway....congrats to you for using a helmet!

Amy


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Registered: 06-05-2008
In reply to: not_a_princess
Tue, 11-25-2008 - 9:38am
Thanks for posting your son's story. You know, as kids we never used helmets. (or car seats and a lot of other things used today) So, I was always wondering - why??? I never fell and hit my head even once. Scraped knees and hands was pretty much it. Having read your story, I'm much more likely to encourage my sons to wear helmets when they are big enough to ride.
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Registered: 07-05-2005
In reply to: not_a_princess
Tue, 11-25-2008 - 9:47am

You were lucky.

Lots of kids had tragic injuries or died from not being properly restrained in a car or not wearing a helmet while riding. Even adults need to wear helmets - especially as they tend to not recover as well from brain trauma as adults. My brother in law had a bicycle accident the other year AND was wearing a helmet and his head hit the curb. He lived, although with some serious injury. However, had he not been wearing a helmet he'd likely have died on impact. Helmets are a very good thing. My children (and us adults) do not even put a leg up on a wheeled item (bike, scooter, etc) unless we have a helmet on. Most injuries occur within a mile of the home.

And, with car seats - not only do some parents NOT use them (which is incredible to me - but just Saturday I saw a lady get into her car with a baby on her LAP!), but 80% of parents who DO use carseats install them incorrectly. That is why going to get a professional to review your installation is really important. Most fire departments offer this service for free. You could also check with your local health department. Kids should be in a car seat or booster until at LEAST 8 years old and/or until they are 100 lbs AND the "seat fits them" - meaning they should be able to sit all the way back, their legs should bend naturally at the seat edge and the seat belt should fall properly over their shoulder and across their hips. If the belt rides up into their face or neck they need a booster until they are taller. This means that some kids may very well be in a booster well into being 10 or 11 years old. Just like with helmets - we need to be firm that this is for their safety and well being however "not cool" it may be for them. Putting the belt BEHIND their back or UNDER their arm is not safe and will result in internal injuries during a crash.

I can give you more info if you want...

Good luck!
Amy


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Registered: 12-27-2005
In reply to: not_a_princess
Tue, 11-25-2008 - 10:27am

we joke, that our Liam will take his driver's test in a low back booster.

 

Tracy - wife to Ron since 9/9/03, mom to college sophomore, Jason (18), high school Junior Chase
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In reply to: not_a_princess
Tue, 11-25-2008 - 6:14pm

Well, actually, she is only in the helmet in the picture because she wouldn't let us take it off.

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In reply to: not_a_princess
Wed, 11-26-2008 - 11:43pm
Non-vaxer here and for good reason.
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Registered: 12-14-2005
In reply to: not_a_princess
Thu, 11-27-2008 - 3:13pm

Ditto on helmets.

My husband use to bike courier and a helmet saved him twice. If you have ever seen a cracked open helmet - you'll never ride without one again.

I was skiing in Whistler and was with some other people their on business when one slide off the side of the trail head-first into the trees :( The survived but with a drastically altered life.

We have a friend who was hit by a cab and a helmet saved his life also.

We tend to refer to people without helmets for skiing, tobogganing, biking, etc as "organ donors." Crass but true.

Our DD has to wear on inside the house on her bike!






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