HIB Vaccine questions

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Registered: 10-17-2005
HIB Vaccine questions
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Wed, 04-08-2009 - 2:53pm
Hi ladies! I have a question adn am looking for some opinions. I have 4 children. DD1 is fully vaxxed, ds1 is partially vaxxed, and my 2 youngest have had none. Ashton will be 3 in july and Irelyn is 6 months. My ped is highly recommending I get the hib vaccine for Ashton. I am looking for pros and cons to this and any experiences. I figured this is the right place to start. I have lurked here a long time and this board is full of very smart women! Thanks in advance!!



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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 04-08-2009 - 4:56pm

Pediatricians always highly recommend vaccines...it's what they are trained to do, it's what they do. :)

60% of HIB cases occur in children less than 12 months of age. 90% if Hib cases occur in children under 5 years old.

I've read many articles that suggest that HIB is caused by other vaccines. Basically, one vaccine leads to the need for another, just like with most pharmaceuticals. Do a search here on this board for the words "Japan" and "HIB" and you'll find a thread or two on the subject.

Some vaccines are for more than just HIB so don't be surprised if you agree to HIB but your doctor does not carry it alone. So in the office, you may end up getting more than just a HIB vaccine just because the office don't/won't carry the HIB alone. New studies show that when HIB is combined with other vaccines that the efficacy of the HIB vaccine may be suppressed.

Try to go to Amazon or a bookstore that allows you to view a page of a book - read page 320 of the "Vaccine Safety Manual" by Neil Z. Miller. Page 320 is anecdotal evidence of harm. I'll type a paragraph from Page 321 for you:

"The AAP has warned doctors to warn parents to look for signs of the disease in their children following vaccination. In fact, several studies found that HIB-vaccinated children are 2 to 6 times more likely than non HIB-vaccinated children to contract HIB disease during the first week following vaccination. Additional research has confirmed that antibody levels decline, rather than increase immediately following HIB vaccinations --- even with the newer conjugated HIB vaccines --- placing the child at greater risk for invasive disease."

You can print this post and take it to your doctor if you like. In case he missed the AAP journal, tell him to buy the book. All MD's should read the Vaccine Safety Manual! Most of them have access to journals that we don't have without paying for them. Miller's book references peer-reviewed documents and backs up every statement he makes.

I didn't have time to look over these but here are some links I have bookmarked:

http://www.wellwithin1.com/hib.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10195681?dopt=Abstract

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673603139864/fulltext

Some package inserts - but be aware that there are several combo and single vaccines. I've included these so you can read about possible side effects (notice how similar they are to the actual disease) and you can read about how very little testing is done before the vaccine was marketed. The trials are a joke...most barely even follow the test subjects past a few days.

http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/hbcwye111706LB.pdf

http://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?pi=545-05&image_type=product_pdf

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/c/comvax/comvax_pi.pdf

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pedvax_hib/pedvax_pi.pdf

I hope this helps!

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 04-08-2009 - 5:07pm

This is the most important one and I failed to include it!

http://www.exploringvaccines.com/?p=722

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Thu, 04-09-2009 - 4:25pm

Check Inside Vaccines, they've got good stuff on Hib.

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/vaccine-efficacy-how-often-do-vaccines-work/hib/

Good stuff everywhere there. Pretty rational and level headed as well.