Interesting article re vax and autism...

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Interesting article re vax and autism...
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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 3:57pm

I don't believe that vaccines caused my son's autism nor do I believe it causes autism in general.

Deb


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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 4:19pm




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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 5:27pm

This was addressed in today's New York Times, too.


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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 6:04pm

I saw this earlier. The timing is certainly interesting, but I understand the retraction. At the moment it seems to be in compliance with the GMC ruling. Oddly - the GMC went out of its way to say that they were not looking at the science and that the charges before him all revolved around ethics. The Lancet's statement is in line with this, so I don't think it settles any of the debate.

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The authors did not claim an association (!) and even issued a retraction of this misinterpretation. Why is this so difficult to understand? I'm not defending his work, but I think some of the criticisms are simply wrong.

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by who? Stephen Bustin? That's a possibility - but not by anyone else. Not that replication is even necessary for a CASE STUDY. The Lancet's statement:

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Says nothing about the actual scientific findings, only underscores the confusion surrounding which project he actually applied for and when the Lancet 12 were chosen. There is plenty of evidence linking GI disorders to autism... is the issue with his claim that of being something novel? I'm the first to admit that I have issues with this paper... but I have issues with a lot of papers. This was a case series, and elements of the study certainly fit the description.

Obviously, I take issue with the patent on competing vaccine technology, but how is it any different than Paul Offit's involvement in Rotashield's failure on the cusp of his own competing vaccine entering the marketplace? Unique strain hypothesis anyone? It's not different.

I'm sticking with official documents, actual testimony, and the counter-complaint filed by Wakefield's lawyer (and I'm not even half way through all of it). CNN is not the only news outlet to get so many key points twisted.

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 7:01pm
hey Gwen, I know your pro-vax (of which again, I could care less about either way), but I find it highly suspicious that THIS is what you CHOOSE to chime in about. Perhaps you could watch Tenpenny's seminar where she talks about the discredit of Wakefield (amongst many other issues that have made the pro-vax camp become instanteously mute), and then chime in?

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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 3:09am
I have to say as a non vaxer this is going to probably be somewhat unpopular with other nonvaxers but I think Wakefield deserves what he got.

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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 7:06am
For me, it's not if one vaccine in particular causes autism, but what all these vaccines given at one time do to vulnerable children.
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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 7:16am

Oh good grief.

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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 7:45am

I'm sorry, but, I needed to stop after slide 4. This is fine for targeting an audience of teen moms, but I personally found myself becoming incredibly queasy.


I'm not sure why you'd think your opinion would be unpopular amongst non-vaxers. As a non-vaxer myself, you're certainly entitled to your opinion just like everyone else here. To me, it isn't, nor has never been about autism or MMR.


Do I think vaccines are a "trigger"?

Rands

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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 10:38am
No, it's not unpopular. I, too, am sick of hearing about it. The thought of a persistent viral infection is not a novel idea. Once his samples were called into contamination question, I lost interest anyway.
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Wed, 02-03-2010 - 5:31pm

A quick Google search of Dr. Tenpenny (never heard of her before reading your comment) turned up that she makes a mint selling what can at best be called "interesting", unproven nostrums as

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