The Irony of it all.....

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The Irony of it all.....
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Wed, 05-06-2009 - 12:47pm

Curious at what thoughts are.


First the situation then the analogy.


Tonight on our news will be a story about a child (male) so allergic to soybeans and peanuts that the very smell of either could kill him.


Analogy:


You are a parent of a 6 y/o son. He is severely allergic to peanuts.

Rands

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 7:33pm

LOL. I don't see an unvaccinated child as a special needs child. I mean, the child with peanut allergy has likely shown that he will get sick and possibly die if exposed. No one can prove that Vannah (my unvaccinated child) could get any disease she's exposed to. We already know that exposure without symptoms/sickness does occur. But with the peanut allergy, it is not so *iffy*.

But yeah, I'll give this more thought when I stop trying to process Melissa's post about antibiotics in vaccines...that has sent me off on a scavenger hunt, now this, lol! We talked about the differences in bacterial vaccines and viral vaccines here on this board once before. Does anyone know how far back we can access these posts? I'm trying to find one where Jamie replied to me with a similar question, I had it bookmarked on my other computer but my husband has deleted all my saved bookmarks :(

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 12:31am

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Good point ... I'll have to think more about this. No one says she can't bring the child to school, just that she has to acknowledge the risk involved .. everyone else pays their taxes, too (assuming our perfect world ;)) This is hard!!! I just worked all night .. I'll try to remember to come back to this with a fresh mind. :-]




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Registered: 10-18-2007
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 10:20am

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You can go back quite a ways I think, but you'd have to have some pretty specific searches, otherwise you'll be looking for a while. I've got some 1500 posts as criticalthinker, and some 1500 as the cl-criticalthinker. I have a tendency to run at the mouth anyway, so good luck looking for something in my drivel.

What are you wanting re: bacterial vs. viral vaccines?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 05-17-2009 - 6:34pm
That was smedley that said that :)
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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 6:41pm

"What are you wanting re: bacterial vs. viral vaccines?"

It's one of those *when I see it, I'll recognize it* kind of things.

I'm working on a chart just for my own use, I'm sure I'll come back to this before I'm done. There's so many details with each disease and with each vaccine. Lately I've wondered if they've ever done a study of all the live-virus vaccines (besides the repetitive MMR alone study) to see if there's a common thread. I remember a post about that but I have no clue how to find it quickly...it might come to me though.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Mon, 05-18-2009 - 11:26am

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Common thread about what? There are no studies that examine cumulative effects. Most clinical trial data are related to one vax versus another vax, or a combination of vaxes versus a different combination of vaxes. They are all done with vaccinated populations as well.

There are none that address the current schedule, or the increasingly younger ages that vaxes have been given.

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Registered: 03-25-2004
Tue, 05-19-2009 - 2:58pm

Our old church was HUGE and it did have a special needs Sunday School for kids/young adults.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 05-21-2009 - 3:29pm
I don't know where my thoughts were - of course there's no studies. This is all so complicated, I need spreadsheets to be able to think through anything I begin to question.
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 05-21-2009 - 3:50pm

Have you seen/heard about the latest cases of child abuse by a school teacher? There are a few cases out there now, mostly the kids are special needs children whose teachers have tied them, bound them, gagged them, locked them up...and then the one that takes the cake: Teachers allowing/forcing special needs children to fight - all for the teachers entertainment...I get so sick of hearing these stories. Special needs children should have the right to choose between public or special-needs schools. They are not all the same, their needs are not the same. They shouldn't all be treated the same and they shouldn't all be expected to act or *be* the same.

I think what your church is doing is a great thing, I'm just sad that there's a need to do it.

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 05-21-2009 - 3:52pm
I watched a little bit of the hearing on this yesterday before C-Span cut it off to turn back to the house.

Rands