Jenny Rips Amanda over Vaccinations

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Jenny Rips Amanda over Vaccinations
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Fri, 10-03-2008 - 10:59am

Jenny McCarthy rips Amanda Peet over vaccinations

Former Playboy Playmate Jenny McCarthy and actress Amanda Peet are publicly feuding over the safety of childhood vaccines. Who says there's nothing sexy about inoculations?

Their dispute revolves around the belief among some parents of children with autism—including McCarthy —that certain vaccines may trigger the disorder, although scientific research has shown no evidence of any link.

Peet, a mother and advocate for childhood vaccinations, said in a recent magazine interview that parents who don't vaccinate their children because of autism fears are "parasites."

That made McCarthy very angry, almost as angry as the people who paid to see her recent movie "Witless Protection," in which she starred alongside Larry the Cable Guy.

In an article published Wednesday in Spectrum Magazine, McCarthy said Peet "has a lot of balls to come forward and be on that side, because there is an angry mob on my side. I like the fact that I can say she's completely wrong."

Peet apologized for her word choice but called it irresponsible to suggest that groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics are engaged in a massive coverup of harmful vaccines.

McCarthy said in the article released Wednesday that the American Academy of Pediatrics "sucks."

Too bad the Wall Street bailout debate is devoid of celebrity combatants. Just imagine how spicy it would be if Heidi Klum was ripping Kate Hudson for her stance on credit default swaps.

Me-OW!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-talk-autismoct03,0,1275381.story






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Mon, 10-13-2008 - 1:09pm

And I don't see it as diverting resources, I see it as raising and spending the necessary money to make them accountable.


But what is happening is that ALL the focus is on the vaccine=autism link.


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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 10-13-2008 - 6:59pm

You are right about all the money going towards the vaccine/autism link. And they could be wasting time looking in the wrong place too. It is a shame. They were studying it all back when I was growing up too. My brother participated in the ones that didn't require him to sleep over.

I'm glad I "met" you Judi 'cause your child helps me to remember that it may not be vaccines. I am convinced it is - but I always want to keep an open mind...even if I don't sound open-minded sometimes :) I met a lady on a board recently who said her grandchild was not vaccinated, and that he was autistic. After a few emails back and forth, we discovered that the child did get that Hep B vaccine, plus they give a shot for Vit K these days instead of the yukky stuff in their eyes, he got that one too. But I know you're in Canada and they don't do that so I try to keep in mind that there are Moms like you out there who's story is not the typical Autism story. I've been wanting to ask you, but I didn't want it to make you defensive, or me get defensive, because I may have asked before and just forgot - but do you know others with your same story? I'm just curious. I do know of one other lady I met on the web, you, and the lady I just mentioned.

All I know is that I hope they come up with something to prove it's genetic. But when I try and give that a shot in my mind, all I come up with is that there's no Autism in my family of cousins, second and third cousins, etc. I was having a discussion with a lady I met at a family reunion and she said there were a lot of Autistic children in her family (related by marriage). That is what made me start looking at my own family and the history. I wrote to some members of my father's family and asked about Autism, most of them were unanswered, but three people wrote me back and said they could not remember anyone being "different" like that. I was wondering what your family tree shows.

Thanks for letting me ask nosy questions, you know you don't have to answer unless you just want to. :) If it is genetic, then I'll be still be mad about the vaccines for many other reasons. I just bitc# about my government on every level...they can't do no "right" in my book, lol.

I understand what you're saying about Jenny, I watched her on Larry King and wanted to choke her through the TV set. Then I realized that it's possible that she was barred from saying certain things. Maybe that is what made her appear (to me, at least) as if she wasn't putting all the information out there. If that's the case, then that has got to be frustrating. But then the comment that the AAP "sucks" wasn't a planned venture so I was probably wrong. Not everyone has the ability to speak publicly without a canned speech memorized so that is why I think she's just speaking from the heart...but you are right, she's a bit of an embarrassment as a spokesperson.

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Tue, 10-14-2008 - 10:11am

Hey Judi and Crunchy :)

As someone who vaccinated and now no longer vaccinates. I don't like Jenny as the spokesperson (for anything) either! She's not a credible spokesperson IMHO.

Rational is important. When you call customer service and yell at the CSR does it get you anywhere? Nope.

If you start with Hi, how are you today? Been a long day listening to angry customers? You will get a "yes". If you say, well I have a problem and I am hoping we can work together to come to a resolution on it and state calmly what your issue is... chances are you will get much further ahead.

The same goes for any other meeting like with doctors, if you look for confrontation, you will likely get it.

Recall I just went into my Drs office for her 4 year checkup - expecting the shots conversation because we agreed to research and delay till 4 years. I asked my Doctor do you want to talk about vaccinations (not argue, debate, etc) and she responded calmly, no, I still want to delay further which means we didn't have to have the discussion - our Dr is already on the same page as us though we won't vaccinate again.

I have always felt if you expect confrontation and therefore before in a belligerent manner - confrontation will meet you.

And I also agree focus needs to be on helping autistic children of which I know many - some mothers firmly believe vaccinations played a role, other genetics. But the one thing these children all have in common is the need to be supported and be provided with tools to integrate into society.






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Wed, 10-15-2008 - 4:57pm

Actually, what you believe to be the “typical” autism story really is not.


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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 2:16pm
Having twin autistic boys, I am so glad Jenny is out there telling people more things need to be looked at to help these kids.
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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 4:55pm

I am glad your kids are doing well on the biomedical treatments.


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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 5:39pm
Everyone has a different opinion and that's what makes the world go round.
    Apraxia Awareness
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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 9:06pm

I have to agree, my oldest was certainly stagnant with OT, play therapy since age 3 and ST the last two years. It wasn't until we checked for yeast and an amino acid test (and he had a bucket load of yeast and was low in a lot of amino acids) treated it and then implemented a GF/CF diet did we really see improvements, and I mean within a month we saw huge improvement. Now my other ds (Aspergers) had teh same testing and although he had yeast and we treated it gf/cf did nothing for him; each kid is different.

I do not like Jenny McCarthy's approach to the media but I do think there is a place for her in the autism community. Still, I always wonder when she swears Evan was "cured", I feel children can improve but to be cured from Autism....I suspect compared to his worst stage he certainly appears cured, but is probably more borderline pdd these days.

Our next tests (when we have the $$$$ is teh IGg testing to see what else ds's are eractive to. The metals test comes after.

Dee

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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 9:25pm

I actually got somewhere today yelling at the CSR, lol! I mean, really, do they not teach these people to use their head??? My DSL and phone was not working so I went to see if the neighbor had phone and DSL. Three neighbors did not have either internet or phone or both. So I tell the lady at the phone company - "the entire neighborhood is out". Do you know she wanted me to unplug the modems and computers in my house to verify that it wasn't a problem with MY lines? I went off. First, I'm in a corner of the room, must hold cellphone a certain way and cannot move from that spot or I'll have ZERO bars on the phone and the call will drop. I had already told the non-listening CSR that and I told her that it was the same company providing us with DSL and land-lines...the same company that offered ZERO bars in a 23 acre area (except the corner of that one room at my Mom's house - forget getting one to work at my house)! When the CSR demanded that I unplug phones and turn off computers, I raised my voice and became not-so-nice! I was on the phone for a total of 40 minutes. I have work to do, deadlines to meet...and I had already been on hold 4 times during the call. I shouldn't have to spend that kind of time when all they needed to know was the addresses of the homes I had already confirmed to be without. And then she thought I was gonna waste MORE of my time to unplug phone lines???

Anyway - they told the neighbors it would be tomorrow before 7pm before our phones and DSL was working. But the irate bit@# got hers turned on within hours, lol!!! Of course everyone's worked when they repaired the line - but still.

I'm like that with any agency who's employees are not allowed to think - some companies teach their employees only to push buttons, anything outside that training is beyond their scope of thought sometimes! But I'm nice until their stupidity starts to show through!

Yes I sound like an angry, crazed maniac...but I'm really very nice until provoked by stupid! Too bad irate doesn't work for anti-vaccine celebrities. She would be much better off keeping quite, but I understand the anger too.

Has anyone seen the nutcase men that posted on that board? I bet you there's more posts about her boobs than about vaccines! I didn't know she was a playboy model! That alone makes her NOT the best spokesperson. In a man's eyes especially, she can never be taken seriously.

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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 9:58pm

Except she speaks as a Momma bear now. There are many things about my early years that would discredit me no doubt, but my experience as a spec needs mother affects who I am now, not what I was like 10 years ago. Still, liked the analogy.

Dee

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