Jenny Rips Amanda over Vaccinations

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Jenny Rips Amanda over Vaccinations
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Fri, 10-03-2008 - 10:59am

Jenny McCarthy rips Amanda Peet over vaccinations

Former Playboy Playmate Jenny McCarthy and actress Amanda Peet are publicly feuding over the safety of childhood vaccines. Who says there's nothing sexy about inoculations?

Their dispute revolves around the belief among some parents of children with autism—including McCarthy —that certain vaccines may trigger the disorder, although scientific research has shown no evidence of any link.

Peet, a mother and advocate for childhood vaccinations, said in a recent magazine interview that parents who don't vaccinate their children because of autism fears are "parasites."

That made McCarthy very angry, almost as angry as the people who paid to see her recent movie "Witless Protection," in which she starred alongside Larry the Cable Guy.

In an article published Wednesday in Spectrum Magazine, McCarthy said Peet "has a lot of balls to come forward and be on that side, because there is an angry mob on my side. I like the fact that I can say she's completely wrong."

Peet apologized for her word choice but called it irresponsible to suggest that groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics are engaged in a massive coverup of harmful vaccines.

McCarthy said in the article released Wednesday that the American Academy of Pediatrics "sucks."

Too bad the Wall Street bailout debate is devoid of celebrity combatants. Just imagine how spicy it would be if Heidi Klum was ripping Kate Hudson for her stance on credit default swaps.

Me-OW!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-talk-autismoct03,0,1275381.story






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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 9:35pm
LOL Crunchy, you've succumbed to group speak too...although you just don't think you have.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 9:58pm
"I am really sorry crunchy, but your experience is pure anecdote."

Mine and how many millions of others? I know, I know, common sense doesn't have a place in all of it and plural anecdotes don't prove that lies are true.

So many parents took their normal baby in for a vaccine and never again had a normal baby. To me, it's just obvious logic.

I have also told you that I have tried very hard to find at least ONE Autistic child in my family. Purely anecdotal of course, but there are none. If it's genetic then where are all the others?

I know, our experiences are so different, but that is what makes me want to know why is there not a website where people tell their stories that their child is Autistic but never received a single vaccine. I want your story to be true, I really do, I just don't believe the lies that the scientific community offers. If we could get that information from at least one source not connected to the money trail, I would take note.

"And my child WAS vaccinated...but he his autism was clear before he had any shots." You're right, I did know that.
Okay, so I shouldn't compared it to death. But since you've taken the point away, I'll correct my statement. I should have said: When ONE out of that 150 (that I know personally) is disabled or forever changed from a vaccine-available disease, I'll let you know.

I am certainly NOT promoting fear of people with ASD, and I don't fear Autism, I have no reason to, I don't vaccinate. I am sorry that I offended you. I enjoy debating with you.

I have to say this though, I can't change how other people view Autism. I know how I view it but I lived a hard life because of it, I can only imagine what it's like for those like my brother, or worse, those who don't speak at all. I cannot imagine being in my Mom's shoes - going from healthy baby to convulsions daily, it should not have happened.

Tell me, what would like for people to say about Autism - nothing? I'm standing up, I don't care who doesn't join me. When they arrive at a true cause and can explain why a child is suddenly different after a vaccine - then I'll not only back down but I will apologize all over cyberspace. Until then, I will speak out.

So if you and Ms Chew know about all these non-vaccinated Autistic children why don't the two of you speak out??? Do you have a list of links to sites where parents of these non vaccinated kids are speaking out? If not, then why?
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 10:00pm
That was a lot more than just an opinion. Again, it is the same story over and over: baby is normal, baby gets vaccine, baby is no longer normal.
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 10:04pm

I try and make sure I verify everything before saying it. There is not a lot of negative group-speak going on about vaccines, it's all positive group-speak.

Tell me when you think I do that! I'll do my best to either agree that I'm wrong or explain my logic one (or both). I'm not a slave to being right all the time so I do enjoy being challenged.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 8:25am

First of all, I didn't say you feared autism, I said you are promoting a fear by spreading your lies and an irrational fear (your words that you constantly use) of vaccinations.


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Registered: 03-06-2007
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 9:33am

Note the key word: PUSHING.


Is it right for someone to call me and my husband 3 times in a panic about this vaccination debate, especially when they don't have kids? No.


Is it right to obessively tell me not to give my child a pacifier when every book I read said that it can help in preventing SIDS and comfort the baby to sleep? No.


It's not about knowing it all. It's about people PUSHING their unasked advice in my face.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 11:02am

Is it right when a person has information that could save a family from something terrible and they KNOW that the family members are unaware and have not read what they've read - is it right to keep quite because of some misplaced anger?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 11:25am

Can you prove that those two very RARE deaths were from the measles? No, because measles is not deadly. Can you prove that those parents got medical attention when necessary and didn't wait until the COMPLICATIONS FROM MEASLES became serious? No, you can not. Can you prove that those children were not fed NSAID's both by their parents AND hospital staff? No, you can not.

I'll be back later today but if you can, I would appreciate a list of all my LIES, I'll take each one, and prove to you that you should not be calling someone a liar.

"I honestly believe that in probably 90% of these cases, there were probably signs of autism that the parents did not see or refuse to see."

Basically, that is you, again, calling someone a liar. Those parents will tell you that their child spoke before the shot, did not speak afterwards...how rediculous of you to assume that they are wrong. A parent KNOWS WHEN HER CHILD SUDDENLY ACTS DIFFERENT. If a doctor tried to feed me that BS, he would be getting a slap across the face. A parent KNOWS HER CHILD!

And if you are so right, you sure don't have a lot of proof to back up your claims do you? I have 1 in 150 to back up my claim. NOW can you find me 1 in 150 children who were not vaccinated and have Autism? No, you can not. If you could, there would be no debate would there?

Sorry if I sound snippy, I just came home to quickly grab lunch and I'm in a hurry. I am very passionate about this, but not being snippy...even after being called a liar.

I know you love Andrew the way he is, and I know he is not severely brain damaged like my brother was. It's a good thing that that Andrew got the DTaP instead of the DPT. Had they not changed that vaccine your Andrew may not be a contributing member of society. The others who were harmed by that vaccine were never contributing members of society. My brother had to have care up until the day he died. Cause of death? Pharmaceuticals that kept him from daily convulsions. He still had them every few days though, right up until his death.

I can somewhat sympathize with your beliefs but since there is only you and one other person (who may also be you for all I know) with your claims, I have a hard time understanding the logic. If I saw a website with thousands or even hundreds with your same story, then I might be willing to think I'm wrong about the cause of Autism. As it stands, again, it is a no-brainer! Baby is normal, baby has shot, baby is suddenly not normal. It happens over and over and over again. 1 in 150!!!

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 11:34am

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I agree with this...to a degree.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Tue, 10-28-2008 - 11:51am

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I understand Judi's position entirely.

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