Litigation and Communicable Disease

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Litigation and Communicable Disease
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Mon, 01-05-2009 - 11:46am

I've been reading some rather disturbing comments on a listserv lately, and I am curious... How many of you in favor of cumpulsory vaccination feel that if your child was exposed to a vaccine available disease, and contracted it, and it was determined that your child was in contact with an unvaccinated person (adult or child), you would assume it was their fault (due to vax status) and sue them?


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Registered: 06-24-2008
Sun, 01-11-2009 - 10:57pm

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Purely out of curiosity.. which "regular drugs" don't work for you? I could see if one didn't give the hoped-for result .. or if a particular class of drugs didn't work for a particular individual ..

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The research that is bent to fit pharmaceutical companies is likely research being done by these companies. Sometimes it helps to check out who the authors are and where they work (usually says in the section with information about all authors) to know if they're doing academic research or working for a company or other government org -- although there are oftentimes collaborations between the 3 .. and a lot of the academic research is funded by government grant money.



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Registered: 01-02-2009
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 8:58am

I haven't taken a lot of drugs, but a few times I've tried something.

Let's see: there was some hormonal stuff one time to help with excess bleeding from menopause. Didn't work. Ended up treating the problem with shepherd's purse tea, which did work.

Can't remember any of the others and I don't think it is important.

You know how with any study they'll say something like: 80% had some improvement (which means that 20% didn't) and 5% had this or that adverse effect. In my family we seem to be in the mostly no improvement category AND in the adverse effect category. Strong reason to go for alternative medicine a lot of the time.

Oh, I remember another one: I was taking an anti-inflammatory after minor surgery. It made me really stupid and then I gave myself a little cut on my finger and instead of healing quickly and easily as my cuts always do, it got inflamed! So I called the doctor and asked if I could get off the drug, for obvious reasons.

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Registered: 08-20-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 10:01am

Oh, I remember another one: I was taking an anti-inflammatory after minor surgery. It made me really stupid and then I gave myself a little cut on my finger and instead of healing quickly and easily as my cuts always do, it got inflamed! So I called the doctor and asked if I could get off the drug, for obvious reasons.


It made you stupid?? You know i have had many of cuts and they don't all heal the same way. I don't see why people think that a cut is a cut it will heal it always the same as it usually

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Mon, 01-12-2009 - 10:20am

Let's see: there was some hormonal stuff one time to help with excess bleeding from menopause. Didn't work. Ended up treating the problem with shepherd's purse tea, which did work.

-- understandable .. not all medications will work the same for all patients. I'm curious to know which herbal, as most doctors are reluctant to prescribe herbals because they are not FDA approved.

Can't remember any of the others and I don't think it is important.

-- it is important, because you're claiming that medications don't work for you, but don't even know what medications you've taken.

I was taking an anti-inflammatory after minor surgery. It made me really stupid and then I gave myself a little cut on my finger and instead of healing quickly and easily as my cuts always do, it got inflamed! So I called the doctor and asked if I could get off the drug, for obvious reasons.

-- there are different types of inflammation and whatever you were taking may have been helping the overall, larger inflammation resulting from the surgery, while the small amount of inflammation you had on your finger was the natural reaction to having the skin broken. I doubt the medication actualy "made you stupid" .. depending on the strength of the medication it might have made you a little woozy .. but that is why people are usually advised to be cautious while taking particular medications. it's too bad you don't remember what the anti-inflammatory medication was. i just find an interesting trend that people who claim medications don't work for them don't usually even know what they are taking.



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Registered: 10-18-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 10:40am

But in coming here, and seeing the crazy arguments

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Registered: 08-20-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 10:44am

If you could have three of the following, but not all, which would you choose?


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Registered: 09-09-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 11:30am

Hey Minority:

Take a look at my post in the "Articles/News" section. It says "critical, suschi and others". You were one of the "others" I had in mind.

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 11:37am

I'll bite.

I had a psychiatrist get me addicted to xanax for seven years. SEVEN YEARS! Seven years of my life are gone. For no reason.

I have family members who have been or are currently having their lives ruined due to prescription pain medication.

My ds was hospitalized after a third wrong diagnosis and wrong treatment with antibiotics.

I admit that there are people who do not trust the medical community or drugs or vaccines because they think "they" are "out to get us". I do not fully trust these entities or their products because I think that they make too much money to fully disclose information and/or approve the use of natural remedies that are used successfully by so many.

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Mon, 01-12-2009 - 11:57am

I had a psychiatrist get me addicted to xanax for seven years. SEVEN YEARS! Seven years of my life are gone. For no reason.

-- I totally agree that all medications are not right for all patients .. my point with the other poster was that she wasn't able to give names of the medications she took -- yet she claimed they didn't work. I agree there are alternatives -- my DH was prescribed some pretty strong anxiety meds because of work-related anxiety ... they werent cutting it so he stopped taking them and found other means to relieve / deal with his anxiety and things are much better now. I would agree with you that doctors are sometimes too quick to prescribe instead of looking more closely at the real issues and listening to the patient and working with the patient to find alternatives to drugs.

I have family members who have been or are currently having their lives ruined due to prescription pain medication.

-- Definitely agree with this .. I see it every day at work. Although, I do think patients hold some of the responsibility when we're talking abuse / addiction to Rx pain medications. It's a combination of doctor not informing patient, making too much medication available and not tapering in a timely manner and the patient not taking in initiative to make sure these things happen or continuing to use the medication when there is no pain, but a psychological dependence.



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Registered: 10-18-2007
Mon, 01-12-2009 - 11:58am

I have all so that point is moot.


I didn't ask you if you had all, I asked you if you could have three which would you choose.

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