Looking for info

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Registered: 01-12-2008
Looking for info
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Tue, 02-24-2009 - 12:07am
Hi I have never been on any of these debate boards before because I don't like to debate things. I am looking for info and I want to get all info I can by Thursday. I should start with telling you my story. I have a wonderful little girl on December 23. She was born at 37 weeks. She had no problems so the next day they sent us home. She did get the Hep B vaccine before coming home. About 20 minutes after coming home she stopped breathing and her heart stopped. My mother-in-law preformed CPR on her and she started breathing again. She was in the hospital for about a week. They did tons of tests and we left with them telling us that it was SIDS that we caught. WE are not totally satisfied with this answer so we where doing research on our own. We found this website that talked about how kids who went through the same thing as our daughter where latter found to have problems with their brains. We have not got her brain checked yet. WE are going to make an appointment to get this done on her 2 month appointment. Well anyways another thing we found with all this research is some scary things with the vaccine that she has received. We are now trying to figure out the truth behind these vaccines before her next appointment on Friday. She is due for more of the vaccines and we are now not sure if we want her to have them. That is why I came here. I am looking for any and all websites on vaccines. I would like both sides to this argument. I thought that everyone here would be able to help me since you can not argue your side without having facts. Thank you for your help.
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My little snuggle bunny Noelle Marie Corrina
Born December 23 2008
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My little angel Jason Edward Joseph
Born and Died January 6 2008

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 10:34am
I've just never heard of such a thing.

Rands

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 10:36am
I can see an "almost SIDS" - but how can anyone still alive be classified as dead? Doesn't make sense.
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Rands

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 12:21pm

It doesn't make sense! SIDS stands for Sudden Infant DEATH Syndrome. DEATH. You can't be diagnosed with DEATH and still be alive.

I had a preemie who's breathing and heart rate stopped several times in the weeks in NICU. They call it apnea. Not "nearly sids".

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Registered: 01-12-2008
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 2:28pm

I am not sure but I think it is the amount of time. From what I know from apnea it is for like a couple seconds. Form Noelle it was over a minute. WE where worried about her having issues from this but them said that babies don't have the same problems is adults. I don't know all if why they classify it as SIDS.

I just asked my husband what the difference is on SIDS snd apnea. he said that apnea doesnt deal with the heart. so we got told that it was SIDS because noelles heart stopped. just so that you know my husband is a nurse and that is why i asked him. sorry i was wrong in my previous thought.

My little snuggle bunny Noelle Marie Corrina
Born December 23 2008

My little angel Jason Edward Joseph
Born and Died January 6 2008

Events in Noelle's life




Edited 2/26/2009 2:48 pm ET by mommy2j_and_n
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Registered: 08-20-2007
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 5:18pm

"It doesn't make sense! SIDS stands for Sudden Infant DEATH Syndrome. DEATH. You can't be diagnosed with DEATH and still be alive."


Do you think i do not know what it means!?!?!?! Geez im sorry i will have to let my grandmother knows shes an idiot for listening to her doctor and to come on here and get her correct answer right?

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Registered: 08-20-2007
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 5:35pm

"I've just never heard of such a thing."


True, i hear things nearly everyday that i've never heard of doesn't make it not right though.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 6:51pm
I totally agree with buying the "Vaccine Safety Manual". We homeschool our children (4 & 9) and on any given day you will find books in every room of this house. But on the days when we pickup and clean the house - there is one book that never gets returned to the bookshelf and that's Miller's book. I read it constantly and learn/memorize something new every single time I pick it up. It's basically just a book of facts. All facts are backed up with peer-reviewed works.
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 7:50pm

You will learn a lot more if you drop the defensiveness. We are not out to get you, I promise we're not :)

I'm sure people come to this board on a regular basis who have never even heard the definition of SIDS.

I thought that with SIDS the heart stops after the baby stops breathing. But maybe since the heart stopped it was "almost" SIDS?

Personally I think using a word like "SIDS" to diagnose a patient still breathing is grounds for firing a doctor - but that's just me.

If only someone would set-up that website with thousands of parent's testifying about how their non-vaccinated baby died of SIDS or how their non-vaccinated child had autism...all this could be put to rest once and for all! But still, here we are...

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 11:18pm

Why is it that I'm calling your grandmother an idiot? Perhaps I'm calling the doctor an idiot. I've known plenty of them.

My point is that to say someone has "death" and the person is still alive is a complete oxymoron.

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Thu, 02-26-2009 - 11:26pm

From the American Sudden Infant Death Syndrome Website:

"SIDS is the sudden death of an infant under one year of age which remains unexplained after a thorough case investigation, including performance of a complete autopsy, examination of the death scene, and review of the clinical history. (Willinger et al, 1991)."

From SIDSfamilies.com:

"A near miss SIDS case. SIDS by definition can not be near or almost. Apparent Life Threatening Events (ALTE) is the proper term for these types of problems and this is a new area of pediatric research, but an almost SIDS is like an almost pregnancy, that being, impossible. It's either SIDS, which means the child died for unknown reasons, or it's something else. If the child lived, it could not be SIDS since SIDS means death and cannot be a diagnosis for a living child. "

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