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Registered: 01-12-2008
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Tue, 02-24-2009 - 12:07am
Hi I have never been on any of these debate boards before because I don't like to debate things. I am looking for info and I want to get all info I can by Thursday. I should start with telling you my story. I have a wonderful little girl on December 23. She was born at 37 weeks. She had no problems so the next day they sent us home. She did get the Hep B vaccine before coming home. About 20 minutes after coming home she stopped breathing and her heart stopped. My mother-in-law preformed CPR on her and she started breathing again. She was in the hospital for about a week. They did tons of tests and we left with them telling us that it was SIDS that we caught. WE are not totally satisfied with this answer so we where doing research on our own. We found this website that talked about how kids who went through the same thing as our daughter where latter found to have problems with their brains. We have not got her brain checked yet. WE are going to make an appointment to get this done on her 2 month appointment. Well anyways another thing we found with all this research is some scary things with the vaccine that she has received. We are now trying to figure out the truth behind these vaccines before her next appointment on Friday. She is due for more of the vaccines and we are now not sure if we want her to have them. That is why I came here. I am looking for any and all websites on vaccines. I would like both sides to this argument. I thought that everyone here would be able to help me since you can not argue your side without having facts. Thank you for your help.
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Registered: 01-12-2008
Wed, 03-04-2009 - 9:58am
Thanks. WE are postponing them for now but I don't know for how long or if she will ever get them. I know that we are not giving her the Hep B vaccine again but the rest I am so unsure. WE should have an idea by her 4 month appointment.
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Registered: 12-10-2008
Wed, 03-04-2009 - 8:16am

I just wanted to say TRUST YOUR GUT! No amount of research is going to take away that feeling that tells you that something happened to your baby because of the vaccine.

I'd suggest going to your appt but postponing vaccines until you are comfortable vaccinating or until you decided not to vaccinate all together.

Good luck with your decision!

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 9:57am
And I can imagine them telling that the Hep A is "deadly". That is what gets me so riled up! They lie, we tell the truth, nobody looks it up for themselves --- and STILL people are ignorant!
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 9:37am

Another conflict of interest...


the drug company is the one going state to state lobbying to get THEIR vaccine added to the mandated school vaccine schedule.


There was an article about the Hep A vax in particular, (how the drug company "lobbied like hell") then another article about the HPV vax, both clearly showing who was lobbying to get these vaccines on the school schedule.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 9:25am

Your response is akin to those who accuse the parents of vaccine damaged children "grasping at straws" for a cause ...


My infant was following the growth chart to a T from 7 weeks of age to 7.5 months, up to the DAY he got his 3rd round of shots...he had no symptoms between that 7 wks to 7.5 months, no sickness, he was a growing fat chubby baby, got the shots on 9/27/99 and went downhill from that moment forward.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 03-01-2009 - 2:19pm


"You think it would change your mind?"

I do...I think - no I KNOW - that it would change my mind and the minds of many many others.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 03-01-2009 - 2:16pm

If you were reading more carefully then you would "get it" much easier. I'm really not trying to be mean when I say this, but you have misunderstood some of what you've read. I have to read over and over sometimes, so I do understand.

Don't you see the conflict of interest when a person who is paid by a vaccine producer is the same person who makes marketing/health decisions about a vaccine? Those people have the lives of millions of children in their hands. Why the conflicts of interest? Why put those people in that position? Why is it even allowed? Other nonprofit agencies cannot break conflict of interest laws - why is it okay for government agencies to do it? Why not pick from hundreds of other scientists and doctors who are not paid by big pharma and who don't hold stocks in pharmaceuticals? Are those scientists and doctors not capable of making the same decisions? Why?

The best book EVER written about vaccines was written by a RESEARCH JOURNALIST. Yes, writing is his job, yes he gets paid to do it. The book is full of nothing but facts that are ALL backed up with peer reviewed journals. Yes, he promotes his BOOKS because that is what he does for a living. NOW - let's take a look at what is being promoted when the pro-vax camp writes a book...or on second thought, why don't you find a book that is NOT promoting the sale of vaccines - then we'll talk, okay?

Here is a task for you if you really want to understand the *money*. First find out who makes decisions about how many vaccines your child will receive in his/her lifetime and exactly when they should receive them and how many boosters they will get. Ask yourself who does he/she work for? Has he/she written any books about vaccines or has he/she formulated any vaccines? Does he/she work for, speak for, advertise for, or hold stock in the companies that produce or push vaccines???

Doing that --- will give you at least a *start* in seeing the corruption.

Not a single one us anti-vax folks here...Robin, Minority, Sushi, Tash, Jamie, Randi (and anyone I've mistakenly left out) are getting paid for the time we spend here, spreading the truth. I spend my time trying to spread the truth to parents who otherwise firmly believe what they hear without doing any research. That is because it's never crossed their minds that vaccines may not be as safe as the CDC would have you believe.

If every dime I earned depended upon people thinking vaccines were safe then I would want people thinking vaccines were safe wouldn't I?

Now, these folks who invent vaccines...I suppose there's money in it for them if we use their product - wouldn't you? And when the people who make vaccines write a book aren't they endorsing that product? Doesn't that help make the vaccine-maker rich? The sales of books AND the sales of the product are being supported with the writing of the book. When Neil Miller writes a book - he's only promoting the book!

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 10:24am

Books are generally not very lucrative. I used to work in publishing and they do not bring in the big bucks. On the other hand, Dr. Offit made millions off of his Rotavirus vaccine patent. In addition, pharmaceutical companies control much of the money for research and have a large foot in the door in most universities. Scientists who don't cooperate won't get the bucks for research and if you don't get money for research you don't get tenure and without tenure you will end up without a career.

The doctors who do the alternative treatments and write the alternative books are not all as white as the driven snow, it is possible to find stinkers who are in it for the money. But there just isn't as much money in alternative stuff as there is on the main pharma road. Reality.

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:18am

"Regarding the pro vax doctors who have written books about vaccines why is it only them that are out for the money and not the anti vax doctors who write books and sell them??? It truely puzzles me"

Because the antivax doctors may be making money off books but they aren't making money off vaccines. You aren't being told "oh it's just about money" because your source wrote a book. It's because they are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 02-28-2009 - 3:05pm
Common news commonly spread can be full of facts, both correct and incorrect. People believe what they hear and we don't realize how often we just go with the flow...correct or not.

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