Mercury free flu vaccine???

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Registered: 04-28-2007
Mercury free flu vaccine???
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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 9:40pm

So, dd (21 months) has had no vaccinations at all (save the vit K short at birth).

I have always poo pooed the flu vaccine as it contained thimerosal. Now I hear and have researched there is a mercury free version.

I am curious how others feel about this vaccine now it is supposedly thimerosal free.

Dee

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Registered: 07-03-2006
Tue, 09-09-2008 - 5:41am

I have gotten the flu shot myself for the past 5 years or so, or at least when it was available - there were a few years with shortages, so I couldn't get one.


I got shots for my older 2 for the past 2 years and for the baby this past year.

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Registered: 09-18-2007
Sat, 09-13-2008 - 1:42pm

Still won't get it! When the flu shot first came out I was given priority because I have asthma. I took it a few times. I have found that every time I got the flu shot, I was always sicker that year than when I didn't have it. I stopped taking it and do not wish to inject that crap into me or my family on a regular basis.

I have had a terrible flu, bronchitis, and even pneumonia. Sure it is not fun, but I'd rather boost my immune system the natural way. BTW, I was on a heavy dose of asthma medication on a daily basis until I moved out of the city to the dry, clean mountain air. It is amazing how quickly I got off those medications and I rarely ever have a problem at all!

If you have ever worked with children, you will get a taste for how amazing our natural immune system works. The first year I worked at an elementary school, I was sick all year long!! Once my body worked through all those diseases, I was fine from then on with only an occasional cold. Our immune system depends on exposure to these diseases to gain strength. It is supposed to work this way, which is why young children are always getting sick. If you lack exposure, IMO, you weaken the immune system.

Riley

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Registered: 12-27-2005
Sat, 09-13-2008 - 8:15pm

The only 2 years that I got a flu shot (out of 3 winters in a pediatric office working directly with the kids), I got so sick within about 48 hours of the shot.

 

Tracy - wife to Ron since 9/9/03, mom to college sophomore, Jason (18), high school Junior Chase
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 9:06pm

I would never get a flu shot because I never had the flu until my husband started getting shots. With the very first one, we all had the flu every year. He got the flu after the first 3 shots, but didn't one or two times that the rest of us did. Soon after his last one - that was the last time anyone in the family had the flu. Of all the diseases, that is the very last one I would worry over. Well - besides Tetanus. And chicken pox. And Diphtheria And Pneumonia And --- oh never mind. I guess I don't have an irrational fear of any of them any more.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 9:09pm
And that stomach bug/flu combination...it really is a strain of the flu. You should do some reading on the subject. Surely those doctors have not made you believe that there is only one strain and it can't possibly come with stomach upset! Why don't you ask about how many strains were thought to be created by the vaccine itself?
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Registered: 12-14-2000
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 10:02pm

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I believe she was talking about gastroenteritis, which many people call flu, but isn't actually related in any way to influenza.


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She didn't say that.

 

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 1:42pm

I have never heard of people mistaking gastroenteritis for the flu. I didn't know the flu could possibly come with stomach bug symptoms - but then I READ about it, later got it, never needed a diagnosis because my husband got one.

Actually I was curious to know if she had ever heard of the vaccine causing the chicken pox, like the polio vaccine caused polio and I believe it was the small pox vaccine that caused a lot of small pox (I don't have time to look it up). I was being sarcastic but I wonder how many people have never heard of it, including doctors. I had one tell me that I was wrong and there is no new strain of chicken pox caused by the vaccine. When I brought him literature from a trusted source, he started studying vaccines and thanked me. Until then, I knew way more than he did about current findings. You would be surprised at how often this happens.

There are so many strains of flu and no one has any answers as to why we suddenly see many more. I guess I stopped seeing doctors as Gods when they had no answers, or lied, or were ignorant about an issue. Even a few pediatric doctors knew less about vaccines than I did and I have not attended medical school - that is pitiful but even more so is that patients and Moms put so much blind trust in them, thinking they know all about vaccines and side effects. I love my pediatric doctor now but it took years to find one who was actually well-versed on vaccine issues. I couldn't put a lot of faith in a doctor who simply spouted off group-speak every time I asked a question. That is what most of them do - until they realize they can't get away with it.

I have lots of questions for doctors and I've tried to get answers for over a decade. Nobody knows the answers but in order to believe the statistics about adverse reactions, I need some convincing. Like why are there so many new strains of flu today? There have always been new strains of the flu, but lately, so many more have been discovered than ever before. Is that because we have better technology now? That is the answer I would expect a doctor to give me when I asked why we have so many new strains. They do go as far as to say there have always been new strains...but can't explain why so many in current day. But since other vaccines have caused new strains - why not the flu too? Why are we seeing new strains and why are the numbers of new strains increasing at such a rapid rate?

I didn't mean to make it sound like a conspiracy theory against the flu vaccine, we have plenty of those already and since none of what I've read is concrete, I won't go any further with it. One thing that is concrete is that we got the flu in this family within weeks of my husband getting the "mandatory" vaccine. Thank God he doesn't work there any longer because we've not had the flu since!

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Registered: 07-03-2006
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 9:29pm
Yes, Karin, that's what I was talking about.
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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 9:52am

As someone who has had proper influenza I totally agree. You run a really high fever, ache all over and are extremely fatigued. It's horrible but I still wouldn't get vaccinated for it JMHO.

That being said, there are many different strains of the flu out there, part of the problem with flu shots in "some" years is not getting the right ones into the vaccine.

Further in children influenza can result in nausea and vomiting.
"People, especially children, may have nausea and vomiting." http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec17/ch198/ch198d.html

So I think it's ok to use the term stomach flu provided the hallmark symptoms of influenza are also present such as high fever and body aches. Without out the fever and body aches you likely have gastroenteritis.

My two cents ;)