Myths as they relate to not vaccinating

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Myths as they relate to not vaccinating
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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 6:45pm

Here are a list of myths that people use to not vaccinate and basically why the rationale does not work:


1. Autism is caused by vaccinations


Truth: So far, 10 studies involving thousands of children have yet to find any connection between the MMr vaccination and autism. The original paper suggesting a connection between the two was formally retracted by 10 0f 13 authors in 2004


*The type of mercury in thermisol does not accumulate in the body. So how can it be harmful?


* Autism rates have continued to rise even after the drug companies phased out thermisol in 2001.


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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 01-19-2009 - 5:13pm

Vannah just reminded me of something else. I asked her "what do you remember about having the chicken pox?" She said "I couldn't go to co-op" (co-op is kinda like preschool) and then she said "but I could eat!". Yes, that was a major difference in her case and her brother's case. She only had one day of no appetite, the rest of the chicken pox days she was eating normally. She must have remembered me comparing their appetites while sick. She's a big eater anyway, no matter what's wrong, we were probably joking about it. The child is ALWAYS hungry and skinny as a rail!

Brayden lost weight and had no appetite at all when he had the chickenpox.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Mon, 01-19-2009 - 11:44pm

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I am, absolutely, positively, 100,000% against the use of NSAIDs in children, period. (Obvious disclaimer) I simply do not understand the practice of immune suppression, at all... and never will.

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Tue, 01-20-2009 - 12:43am

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Have you read articles about the baby being protected in their first few weeks via Mom's natural immunity?

I read somewhere that this protection lasted 18 months but other articles didn't specify.

Then when your baby gets the disease (if they do) then you will get a booster, just from the exposure...or so I've read.>>

Dedicated note taker!! :) Pox at 13 was pretty terrible -- I was really sick from it and then my youngest sister caught it from me and was even worse than I was. I had little red dots everywhere imaginable, under fingernails, in my mouth, in my ears, all through my scalp and nothing relieved the itching, I had them in June -- just as it starts to get warm enough to be uncomfortable even when you're not covered in pox! My middle sister (who had them when she was 5) had a very mild case when she caught chicken pox and bounced right back in probably no more than a week. Obviously -- we were around her the whole she was sick time b/c my mother hoped we would all just catch it together and be done with it .. that wasn't the case -- so I can totally see how a person could be exposed multiple times without breaking out. I had also heard about immunity from mother's immunity for at least the first 12 months -- though I don't recall where I read that.

It seems to me .. based on the stories of people / children who were vaccinated and still get chicken pox, and the fact that not all pediatricians advocate for the chicken pox vaccine -- its one that could easily be avoided without much risk to anyone -- and maybe even benefit to those of us who were not vaccinated! :-p

It would be interesting to see some sort of data compiled that relates to the rate of vaccine failure for varicella .. though it's my guess that would never be done because then they don't really have a vaccine to sell ..



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Registered: 01-02-2009
Tue, 01-20-2009 - 8:39am

I've noticed that the chickenpox vax and the hep B vax are the two that people have the most questions about in online discussions. Those two vaccines probably did more to expand the vaccine doubters movement than anything else.

I asked a vaccine pushing doctor in an online discussion once: "The Norwegians don't require the chickenpox vaccine. If I were to vaccinate my child according to the schedule used in Norway, would that be anti-vaccine craziness? Cause, you know, the Norwegians are absolute tops when it comes to child health."

She didn't answer this question.

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Registered: 12-14-2005
Tue, 01-20-2009 - 10:11am

"Those two vaccines probably did more to expand the vaccine doubters movement than anything else."

Agreed but I would also add the HPV (help pay for vioxx) vaccine to this list. That vaccine's got a lot of bad press and rightfully so!






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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 01-20-2009 - 1:07pm

"(help pay for vioxx)"

That was so darn funny!

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 01-20-2009 - 1:32pm

If only I had a crystal ball and could go through the chickenpox with Brayden WITHOUT the vaccine. I bet he would have had a mild case too. I have read more than once that a child who had the vaccine broke out worse, had more fever, and the sickness lasted longer than a child who was not vaccinated. Because of other real stories from real Mom's, I'm convinced that whole "mild case if you've been vaccinated" thing is just more group-speak used for spreading scare tactics. I have also read studies that suggest it may be worse, no studies saying it "may" be a mild case though except in the CDC's musings. How do they know? With the lack of system - how WOULD they know? I guess its like anything else with them though, they think it's perfectly okay to play numbers games. I guess they pulled a piece of paper out of their hat and it said "cases will be less severe in vaccinated children" so they ran with it. I guess that's cheaper than fortune cookies! (Sorry I'm not a fan of statistics.)

I have read a few articles about NSAID's. One left me sick at my stomach because it's very likely what caused his rash to last so long (the use of NSAID's). So I probably caused it to be worse...but I have to wonder was it the NSAID's or was it the vaccine or was he a child who would have had a severe case anyway? I find that one hard to believe though since his daddy never showed a single symptom when his brother had it.

I was giving him Motrin and Tylenol back to back for days, I do remember that part! UGH!

Now we don't keep either in the house - no asprin either!

I'm so very thankful for the smart people I've met!!! :)

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