Myths as they relate to not vaccinating

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Myths as they relate to not vaccinating
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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 6:45pm

Here are a list of myths that people use to not vaccinate and basically why the rationale does not work:


1. Autism is caused by vaccinations


Truth: So far, 10 studies involving thousands of children have yet to find any connection between the MMr vaccination and autism. The original paper suggesting a connection between the two was formally retracted by 10 0f 13 authors in 2004


*The type of mercury in thermisol does not accumulate in the body. So how can it be harmful?


* Autism rates have continued to rise even after the drug companies phased out thermisol in 2001.


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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 12-17-2008 - 11:13pm
Well that explains it.
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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 12-18-2008 - 7:28am

Rands

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Registered: 12-14-2005
Thu, 12-18-2008 - 10:22am

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/meas-508.pdf

Page 7 of the file, page 10 with the number on the pages - half-way down.






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Registered: 10-25-2008
Sat, 12-20-2008 - 3:57pm

Please provide me with a study (animal model preferred) that shows the effects of vaccination on the undeveloped nervous system during every phase of the vaccine schedule.

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Registered: 12-21-2008
Sun, 12-21-2008 - 9:51pm

I have three very healthy unvaccinated children. Your so called myths of why people do not vaccinate do not really include any of the major issues for which we chose not to vaccinate our children. Have you actually researched this for yourself or are you just quoting things youve been told by provaccine sources ?


Aside from all the other problems I have with vaccines is that if there was evidence that my child would fare any better or be saved from contracting the disease in an outbreak the benefits might outweigh the risk. Most outbreaks include as many if not more fully vaccinated being infected than non vaccinated. Also yes we are exposed to environmental toxins but they are not injected into us they go through the normal natural body defenses like skin, mucous membranes and intestines. Babies have immature blood brain barriers allowing things in the blood stream to travel directly to their brains. Injecting bacteria/ viruses does not allow the immune system to develop a full blown response. Having serological antibodies does not mean you are immune. And finally how can anyone claim that vaccine side effects/ reactions are rare when there have been no long term studies and no studies comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated.

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Mon, 12-22-2008 - 11:10am

No one is asking for the study to have been done by you!

When you say something is a "proven fact" and you want people to believe you then you need to be able to back it up with studies that will support your claim.

Strawberries cure cancer. Proven fact. No study to back it up because I'm a full time mom and can't do the studies. Do you believe it? Anyone buying what I'm selling????
Actually...some people are pretty gullible it seems...you never know...

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Tue, 12-23-2008 - 8:52pm

Aside from all the other problems I have with vaccines is that if there was evidence that my child would fare any better or be saved from contracting the disease in an outbreak the benefits might outweigh the risk.


That is where you are wrong. Vaccines HAVE been proven to more effective in terms of the benefits than the risks of not vaccinating. Please do not accuse me of not doing the research it has been proven again and again and again. ALl the bad rap that vaccines have gotten has NOT been proven (autism etc) that is all. It is as plain and simple as that. what more proof do you need?


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Registered: 09-09-2007
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 2:10am

There are many, me included that will not simply take the cdc's word for it when it comes to our children. We have done the research. The vaccines given to children cannot be confirmed to be 100% safe and effective and that's enough for me and many others to do our research and make the decisions we've made in regards to not vaccinating. Honestly, for me, it's mere common sense and science.

The other poster was right about the brain. The immune cells from the vaccination enter the brain and trigger the brain's immune system. Because it's not actually under attack from an invader, it basically attacks itself. If this happens with one shot, think how strongly it would happen when a child gets several and even more in a very short time period. The frequent and numerous vaccines won't let the brain get out of attack mode.
"A recent study by the world-renowned immunologist Dr. H. Hugh Fudenberg found that adults vaccinated yearly for five years in a row with the flu vaccine had a 10-fold increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease. He attributes this to the mercury and aluminum in the vaccine. Interestingly, both of these metals have been shown to activate microglia and increase excitotoxicity in the brain. " -http://www.whale.to/a/blaylock34.html#What_Happens_to_the_Brain_With_Vaccination_
With or without studies, IMO it is common sense that the human body is designed to fight off the things that man is making a fortune off injecting into people. A normal, fully functioning, unmessed with immune system is the best fight against these diseases...not an over vaccinated, confused, weakened immune system.

I personally knew a man who got the anthrax vaccine from the military and is now an epileptic.

Government concedes Vaccine case -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/government-concedes-vacci_b_88323.html
and
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/brain-and-behavior/2008/04/10/fighting-the-autism-vaccine-war.html

CDC cover up -
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/529583

"Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults"
http://www.909shot.com/pressreleases/pr1031flu.htm
http://www.healthychild.com/flu-vaccine-studies.htm

A study on rubella vaccine -
http://www.thinktwice.com/Yazbak1.pdf

Though you don't like people asking you for studies, I wanted to throw some out there for you.

Just a tip: It seems like you want to change people's minds. There's nothing wrong with that. You think you're right and want others to believe the same. That's fine. I would suggest though that it's easier to convince people and carry on discussions when you are calm, rational, and open minded.

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Sat, 12-27-2008 - 10:40pm

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The burden of proof is yours.

-- Jamie

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Sun, 12-28-2008 - 12:16pm
ah, thanks for the heads up!
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