Myths as they relate to not vaccinating

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Myths as they relate to not vaccinating
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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 6:45pm

Here are a list of myths that people use to not vaccinate and basically why the rationale does not work:


1. Autism is caused by vaccinations


Truth: So far, 10 studies involving thousands of children have yet to find any connection between the MMr vaccination and autism. The original paper suggesting a connection between the two was formally retracted by 10 0f 13 authors in 2004


*The type of mercury in thermisol does not accumulate in the body. So how can it be harmful?


* Autism rates have continued to rise even after the drug companies phased out thermisol in 2001.


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Registered: 09-09-2007
Mon, 12-29-2008 - 3:30pm

"The average birth weight for a baby is 7.4 lbs. (3.4 kg.) They receive soon after birth a hepatitis B vaccine that, if it happens to be Recombivax Hepatitis B from Merck, contains 500 mcg. of aluminum or 147 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight. If the Energix vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline is administered, the pediatric dose is 250 mcg. of aluminum as aluminum hydroxide totaling 73.5 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight.

The amount of time for these doses of aluminum to be eliminated by an infant’s immature kidneys is unknown, as is the time it takes for aluminum to transfer from muscular tissue to the bloodstream and, ultimately, into the brain. Meanwhile, the infant is continually dosed with aluminum through infant formula, and even in breastmilk but to a lesser degree.

The average baby visiting their pediatrician for the two-month, well-baby checkup weighs 9.25 lbs. (4.2 kg.) and could receive as much as 1475 mcg. of injected aluminum within 30 min. or 351 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight. The breakdown of vaccines the pediatrician is supposed to administer follows: Hep B (250 to 500 mcg Al); Rotateq® (oral); DTaP (Infanrix® - 625 mcg Al and DAPTACEL® - 330 mcg Al); PCV - pneumococcal vaccine with 8 antigens (125 mcg. Al); Hib – haemophilus influenza type b (225 mcg. Al) and; IPV – inactivated polio vaccine.

Then, at four and six months of age, the bolus doses of aluminum continue to be injected."

Given those stats, I'd rather chew on ball of foil and wash it down with water from the city than take or give my kid a vaccine.

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Mon, 12-29-2008 - 4:45pm
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Registered: 10-25-2008
Tue, 12-30-2008 - 10:18am

3. Vaccines contain toxins.


Truth: Every day exposure to things like food and formula places people at a much higher exposure rate to toxins. The level of toxins has been tested and found to not place children at risk.

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Registered: 01-02-2009
Fri, 01-02-2009 - 9:42pm

Please provide links to these tests.

The only test I saw of aluminum (cited by Offit in his article defending toxins in vaccines) involved FEEDING aluminum to adult mice.

This isn't the same as injecting aluminum into human babies.

Do you know of other studies? I'd really like to know about them. If you don't know of the studies, then you are just repeating rumors/hearsay and there is no reason for anyone to take you seriously.

I think this is the Offit article I'm thinking about: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/reprint/112/6/1394

It took me about a minute to find it.

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Mon, 01-05-2009 - 1:25pm
If you haven't read it - Shaw provided an excellent study of aluminum (in mice) that you may want to read. It's located in the "Studies" link in this thread.

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Mon, 01-05-2009 - 8:57pm

http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccine_components_detail.cfv?id=61


This is only one article that states that it is safe. There are a ton more. Just google it. Aluminum has been safely used for 70 years in the amount it is used. I think you need to prove in the amount used for a vaccination it is unsafe and show it by means of a study. Because there is none that prove it is harmful. That is why you need to listen to me and not the ranting and raving that takes place here on a daily basis. Because there is no proof of anything in terms of harm caused by any of the materials in vaccinations.

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Registered: 01-02-2009
Mon, 01-05-2009 - 9:28pm

Yes of course it is perfectly safe.

But where is the study that demonstrates safety when aluminum is injected into infants?

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Tue, 01-06-2009 - 1:27am

From a PP on another thread ...

A word about adjuvants: the only adjuvant approved for use in humans is the aluminum based family of adjuvants- crystalline aluminum oxyhydroxide AlOOH (commonly but improperly referred to as aluminum hydroxide), alum AlK(SO4)2, and Aluminum Phosphate. In all of these adjuvants the aluminum forms a covalent bond with other elements which can’t be broken off of it to create free aluminum, these other elements help to form a crystalline matrix which helps to hold antigen. As for the concerns about Aluminum crossing the BBB these forms of aluminum can’t cross the BBB because they are too big and there are no transporters, in fact even if they were free their oxidation states imparting charges to them would not allow them to cross since charged molecules do not cross even semi-permeable membranes (look at the principle of osmosis for example). Once the antigen has been processed most of these metal compounds are chelated by plasma proteins and expelled from the body.



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Registered: 01-02-2009
Tue, 01-06-2009 - 8:42am

Well, that is nifty, thanks for sharing.

One of my concerns about aluminum is its effectiveness as an adjuvant. Just in case anyone doesn't understand the principle: most attenuated dead bugs won't cause any sort of immune response in your average human being. So vaccines won't work without an irritant to wake up the immune system. Aluminum is a commonly used irritant.

Why is this risky? When the immune system is stirred up, it would be nice to assume that it will react only to the attenuated bugs in the vaccine, but there is no reason for that assumption to be correct. The immune system is just as likely to react to something else, completely unrelated to the desired substance.

This is one of the theories about the enormous (and mostly unstudied) rise in allergies, asthma and other immune problems in certain developed countries.

Here is a picture which might help:
When the U.S. was attacked on 9/11, the U.S. immune system went on high alert and started looking for enemies to respond to. Instead of identifying the right enemies...

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Registered: 08-20-2007
Wed, 01-07-2009 - 6:04pm

Why is it the medical professionals always assume that every person exposed will inevitably get the disease(s) they come in contact with? And they tend to speak with such certainty that all vaccines work 100% each and every time.


Why is it so bad to try and help someone? How can you honestly say that vaccinations have not helped a few million people who could of picked up these diseases if they had not been vaccinated?


No one can say what is going to happen until it actually does, but i am a firm believer in vaccinations as I DO know someone who got rubella that had not been vaccinated

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