Myths as they relate to not vaccinating

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Registered: 10-25-2008
Myths as they relate to not vaccinating
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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 6:45pm

Here are a list of myths that people use to not vaccinate and basically why the rationale does not work:


1. Autism is caused by vaccinations


Truth: So far, 10 studies involving thousands of children have yet to find any connection between the MMr vaccination and autism. The original paper suggesting a connection between the two was formally retracted by 10 0f 13 authors in 2004


*The type of mercury in thermisol does not accumulate in the body. So how can it be harmful?


* Autism rates have continued to rise even after the drug companies phased out thermisol in 2001.


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Registered: 07-03-2006
Wed, 01-07-2009 - 6:40pm
Uh, the US went after the right enemy after the 9/11 attacks - bin Laden and al Qaeda who were hosted by the Taliban in Afghanistan.
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Registered: 01-02-2009
Wed, 01-07-2009 - 8:15pm

I've been reading "Angler" about our amazing VP Cheney. His first goal after the attacks was to find ways to spy on Americans. True, he thought this was the best way to catch terrorists. But it hasn't actually worked all that well.

Second move was to head towards torture and extraordinary rendition and Abu Ghraib and some of that other horrific stuff.

True, the first reaction was at least partly aimed in the right direction, which I think makes the analogy even better, because vaccines armed with aluminum do, usually, stimulate the immune system to defend against the correct bugs, but it doesn't always stop there.

Just as the defense against terrorism has just gotten wider and wider and messed with all sorts of stuff that wasn't really relevant. Iraq being one example.

I should have realized that there were lots of people who didn't spend the last couple of days reading the book I've been reading! :)

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Registered: 10-10-2004
Wed, 01-07-2009 - 11:34pm

"No one can say what is going to happen until it actually does, but i am a firm believer in vaccinations as I DO know someone who got rubella that had not been vaccinated"


I'm curious what you mean by knowing someone who has had rubella? I don't want to assume anything but it seems youa re implying that it was a bad or harmful thing to contract rubella? Was the person you knew harmed by rubella? I don't see contracting rubella as harmful to the majority of people.


I only ask because I have had rubella, measles, chicken pox, and pertusis all as a child. At no time was I in any danger. Things didn't even get ugly so to speak. The diseases ran thier normal course I was a bit miserable, but that's kind of what being sick with anything does to you, I itched with some of them and slept a lot. I guess the two worst things that came of any of them were from chicken pox and measeals. I had a chicken pox on the roof of my mouth and that drove my seven year old self nuts! with measles I hated being couped up withput friend for so long. I was nine and it was torcher to not play outside.


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Registered: 08-20-2007
Thu, 01-08-2009 - 4:17am

I'm curious what you mean by knowing someone who has had rubella? I don't want to assume anything but it seems youa re implying that it was a bad or harmful thing to contract rubella? Was the person you knew harmed by rubella? I don't see contracting rubella as harmful to the majority of people.


I only ask because I have had rubella, measles, chicken pox, and pertusis all as a child. At no time was I in any danger. Things didn't even get ugly so to speak. The diseases ran thier normal course I was a bit miserable, but that's kind of what being sick with anything does to you, I itched with some of them and slept a lot. I guess the two worst things that came of any of them were from chicken pox and measeals. I had a chicken pox on the roof of my mouth and that drove my seven year old self nuts! with measles I hated being couped up withput friend for so long. I was nine and it was torcher to not play outside.


Yes her unborn child was harmed and died. SO although my friend survived her child did not. Is that a good enough reason for you?

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Registered: 10-10-2004
Thu, 01-08-2009 - 10:38am

"Yes her unborn child was harmed and died. SO although my friend survived her child did not. Is that a good enough reason for you?"


I'm very sorry for your friends loss. Losing a baby for any reason is always sad and tragic.


I still stand by the fact that rubella itself is not generally harmful when contracted by most people. Pregnancy is an exeption but it does not automatically mean a miscarriage or birth defect. First you have to contract it and in this country only about 20% of women are not immune and then only about 25% of women that do contract it during pregnancy (in first trimester, goes down with each trimester)

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Thu, 01-08-2009 - 11:29am
First you have to contract it and in this country only about 20% of women are not immune and then only about 25% of women that do contract it during pregnancy (in first trimester, goes down with each trimester) will have a baby with a birth defect from it.



Only 20% of women contract rubella in this country because there have been such aggressive measures to vaccinate the population. If we didn't vaccinate, the incidence would be higher, including the number of women who contract rubella during pregnancy and the number of birth defects or miscarriages would also be higher. There are so many things that can go wrong during a pregnancy .. so many things to cause birth defects and miscarriages -- if we can prevent or greatly reduce the possibility of just one occurring, how is that not worth it?




The last major epidemic of rubella in the United States occurred in 1964 and 1965, when millions of rubella cases led to 20,000 cases of infants born with congenital rubella syndrome.


Following vaccine licensure in 1969, rubella incidence declined rapidly. Each year from 1992 through 2000, fewer than 500 cases were reported; each year since 2001, fewer than 100 cases have been reported -- this is a 99 percent decline compared with the pre-vaccine era.
Arthur Schoenstadt, MD (2006)


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Registered: 08-20-2007
Thu, 01-08-2009 - 1:57pm

First you have to contract it and in this country only about 20% of women are not immune and then only about 25% of women that do contract it during pregnancy (in first trimester, goes down with each trimester) will have a baby with a birth defect from it.

Only 20% of women contract rubella in this country because there have been such aggressive measures to vaccinate the population. If we didn't vaccinate, the incidence would be higher, including the number of women who contract rubella during pregnancy and the number of birth defects or miscarriages would also be higher. There are so many things that can go wrong during a pregnancy .. so many things to cause birth defects and miscarriages -- if we can prevent or greatly reduce the possibility of just one occurring, how is that not worth it?


I could not AGREE more. Thankyou for posting that information.


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Registered: 07-17-2005
Fri, 01-09-2009 - 9:27pm

From THIS paragraph ---

"First you have to contract it and in this country only about 20% of women are not immune and then only about 25% of women that do contract it during pregnancy (in first trimester, goes down with each trimester) will have a baby with a birth defect from it."

How the heck do you two come up with

"20% of women contract rubella in this country" ? ? ?

WOW!

No. Sorry. --- 20% Of women in this country DO NOT contract rubella! And if they did, would they even know the difference between rubella and the common cold??? Would either of you?

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Fri, 01-09-2009 - 9:31pm

"Why is it so bad to try and help someone?"

Hummm, well, I don't know...did someone SAY it is bad to try and help someone?

"How can you honestly say that vaccinations have not helped a few million people who could of picked up these diseases if they had not been vaccinated?"

And would you like to point out exactly where someone said that???

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Registered: 06-24-2008
Sat, 01-10-2009 - 9:40am

My guess is a person could tell the difference between a cold and rubella --- the common cold doesn't cause a rash. Would you know the difference? ... c'mon now.

I don't know where the 20% stat came from .. I think rubella is a very rare occurrence in the US -- since we started vaccinating. My point was simply that regardless of how low the stats are, they would be higher if we didn't vaccinate. :)



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