Need Advice Please..

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Registered: 01-21-2009
Need Advice Please..
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Thu, 11-05-2009 - 11:37pm

Hello ladies,

I am a lurker from the August09 PG but I am having a very hard time coming to a decision for my son.

His 2 month appointment is coming up and I have been doing research about vaccinating and not vaccinating just can't seem to make up my mind. My fiance is very pro vax but he also hasn't done any research on it. I am more non vax.

I would really appreciate some strong points on both. Even if some of you have strong points about certain vaccines I would LOVE to hear them. I tried doing my own research for everything but I am new at this and just want to make the right decision.

I am so worried about SIDS, Autism and other possible effects these vaccines could have on my son. But I'm very scared of him getting sick too. I've literally been in tears over this these past couple days I need some advice.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Also he is breastfed or gets pumped milk. He hasn't had any vaccines yet.




Edited 11/5/2009 11:39 pm ET by amber_due0809

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Registered: 01-28-2007
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 12:06am

Currently we don't vax. I'm not sure we ever will unless there is a serious outbreak of an illness. For me the major thing it boils down to is that I just can't put those toxins in her body. I spend every second protecting her and my gut tells me that isn't the way right now. We also have religious objections to several vaccines that utilize cells from an aborted fetus. I have lots of other reasons and they only increase with more research. (which I continue to do. I started with the vaccine book and have expanded from there)

I would urge you to keep researching. Take your time and don't do anything until you are very informed and at peace with the decision. Don't let your fiance pressure you without him having done research. If he wants to advocate these vaccines he needs to show you why he thinks they are safe.

Keep on breastfeeding. Consider extended breastfeeding. It really is an amazing immune boosting tool.

Oh and this isn't vaccine related, but it helped me navigate some of the sids fear: http://www.askdrsears.com/html/10/t102100.asp

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 12:12am
The best advice I can give you is wait until you are totally comfortable with your decision before you vaccinate.

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Registered: 04-22-2005
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 2:49pm

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But even if he/she still caught it, isn't it likely to be less severe than if they weren't vaccinated at all? To me, avoiding a severe case (one that can develop complications) is as important as avoiding the disease at all, which is part of why we choose to vaccinate. We use a spaced schedule, though, so that our little ones don't have to get so many shots all at once. You're right that it's important to find a supportive pediatrician. They might be able to work with them on an alternative vaccination schedule, one that is delayed a bit, more spaced out, and perhaps eliminating a few vaccines altogether (such as Heb B and varicella).











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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 3:13pm

Please read this:


http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/vaccine-efficacy-how-often-do-vaccines-work/dtap/


http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/02/14/pertussis-yo-yo-stats/


http://www.medscape.com/druginfo/monograph?cid=med&drugid=149818&drugname=Diph%2CPertus(Acel)%2CTet+Ped+(PF)+IM&monotype=monograph&secid=6


Quote from last one: A single IM dose of DTaP does not provide protection against diphtheria, tetanus, or pertussis; a complete primary immunization series with the age-appropriate preparations is needed to induce optimum levels of antitoxin antibodies that provide protection.

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Registered: 04-22-2005
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 3:43pm

Quote from the first one: "A study completed on vaccinated children in Israel concluded that the pertussis vaccine does not prevent transmission, it merely prevents the subjects from getting or feeling ill." Frankly, that's all I ask of vaccines.

The second article didn't address my question. I'm not asking about whether pertussis would still be prevalent. I'm asking about the effects of vaccination on the *severity* of the pertussis when contracted.

The third article was more helpful, although there were a couple of things I wasn't clear on. I'm assuming that when they say "protection" they are referring to not contracting the disease at all, but I could be wrong. I already know that anything less than the full course of vaccination will not protect a person from getting pertussis, but again that doesn't mean that incomplete vaccination has no effect on the severity of acquired pertussis before then.

What I'm looking for is information somewhere along the lines of what they stated about diptheria:

"Primary immunization against diphtheria reduces the risk of developing diphtheria and the severity of clinical illness, but does not prevent or eliminate colonization or carriage of C. diphtheriae in the pharynx, nose, or skin of vaccinees. "











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Registered: 01-21-2009
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 4:01pm

Thank you for all the answers so far. I've been reading all the articles you all posted. I am 99% positive my son will not be getting the DTaP or the Hib. The Hep B will be postponed until he is preteen.

Does anyone have any strong information about the Rotavirus, PCV or the IPV?

I have read about the Rotavirus vaccine being harmful, I'm asking you ladies bc you seem much more educated on these matters than I am, I hope you don't mind answering.



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Registered: 04-22-2005
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 5:04pm
Although I'm pro-vac, I will say that I seriously doubt your child is likely to contract polio.










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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 5:53pm
The quote I gave you answered

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Registered: 04-22-2005
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 6:11pm
So it neither provides protection from infection NOR any assistance whatsoever in reducing symptoms if protection fails? Hmm, food for thought. Thanks!










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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 11-06-2009 - 6:27pm

Rotovirus: Rotovirus vaccine is a live virus vaccine. 1 in 1300 rotovirus vaccine test subjects had seizures. The older version of the rotavirus vaccine "RotaShield" was pulled from the market in 1999 because it was causing infants intestines to telescope in AKA Intussusception.

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