Pharmafia (Pharma Shills)

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Registered: 11-06-2009
Pharmafia (Pharma Shills)
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Mon, 12-28-2009 - 11:10am

As cunchymomto2 (and others) have accused myself (and others) of being paid pharmacy advocates - I thought Dr David Gorski's reprint of this tired ad hominem would be instructive.

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Wed, 01-13-2010 - 1:21pm

We almost agree.

Rands

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Registered: 11-06-2009
Wed, 01-13-2010 - 4:37pm

Rands,


The reporting of adverse events is required by the manufacturer via FDA and HCPs via MedWatch.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 01-13-2010 - 11:51pm

"As for the ad hominem - I do think Gorski can be harsh. There is a difference, however, a conspiracy theorist (which both Shmedley and Dana have proven tehmselves to be) holds an opinion, unsubstantiated by fact, of a coordinated effort to act with malice against a population or group."

Ok, I know we've been down this road before. So again, I'll ask you to list my conspiracies - using quotes (and yes I noticed that you didn't cut and past before ;))

You know, you yourself seem MUCH MORE like a conspiracy theorist than anyone else on this board.

The pharma-shill *trainers* are failing miserably!

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 12:13am
'Wasn't very classy either!
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 12:37am

"Mortality from measles in the US is higher than mortality from the vaccine. Long term health effects, none identified. Period."

Personally, I don't really give a flying flip about what SCIENCE has "identified".

Measles never killed anyone that I know of. Didn't kill me...

Show us the proof of the killer measles will ya? Be willing to prove there was no NSAID use at all.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 12:43am

"Thanks to the MMR vaccine."

You have nothing to back that up with. No proof, nothing of substance to even twist...nothing.

But hey...'said like a true pharma-shill!

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 12:48am

"(we'll ignore the years of progress of sanitation/hygiene/water purification)."

And most of all nutrition. But then - that's debatable. I have to wonder if my Mother's generation wasn't the healthiest because back then they didn't eat processed or government tainted, chemically enhanced food so they probably were healthier than my generation. Evan so, my generation fared quite well with the measles...and the lifelong immunity is simply a cherry on top. (Make that an organic cherry - it makes for better conspiracy theories.)

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 12:57pm

Really? Can we at least agree that measles in MOST individuals is relatively mild and provides long-term immunity? Can we also agree that studies have shown that mothers with the wild strain measles that passed on their antibodies via breast milk to their infant provided that baby protection which was more superior than the vaccine during that same time frame that it was considered most "at risk"? Can we also agree that while you bold reactions that can occur (and I'm sure DO, not saying they don't) from the wildstrain measles, that we can in fact admit the same thing from the vaccine? (in rare cases of course, just like the disease).


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n the United Kingdom (3,8), 14 years after it had been eliminated. Since April 2008, two measles-related deaths have been reported in Europe, both in children ineligible to receive MMR vaccine because of congenital immunologic compromise (4,8). Such children depend on herd immunity for protection from the disease, as do children aged <12 months, who normally are too young to receive the vaccine. Otherwise healthy children with measles also are at risk for severe complications, including encephalitis and pneumonia, which can lead to permanent disability or death.

Rands


Rands

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-06-2009
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 4:47pm

Really? Can we at least agree that measles in MOST individuals is relatively mild and provides long-term immunity?"


I agree.

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Thu, 01-14-2010 - 10:44pm

See next post.


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