so i finally gave my son the MMR vaccine

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so i finally gave my son the MMR vaccine
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Wed, 03-04-2009 - 2:02pm

Hi ladies - this is my first time posting on this board.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 03-10-2009 - 6:48pm
Happy Birthday Dee! I hope you're having a wonderful day!
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 03-10-2009 - 6:41pm

"however, the measles could be deadly!!!"

The attachment is a CDC document from 1967. Read the first paragraph. Now start asking yourself how billions before you (and before the vaccine) ever survived it if it's *that* deadly. It did not kill me. ;)

I stopped falling for the scare tactics just a few short years ago. But only after a decade of falling for them over and over again. :)

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Tue, 03-10-2009 - 6:26pm

Welcome to the board. If you want a short answer as to why we give the MMR more than once - I can give you a short answer - money. :)

But if you would like to better understand that the vaccines work sometimes, sometimes they don't, sometimes they wane, and if you have ever wondered if they are really necessary or imagined the diseases they are supposed to protect against, then I can only point you to a book. The book "Vaccine Safety Manual" (Neil Z. Miller) is the most fact filled book I've ever seen. Everything in the book is backed up. It will help you to make your decisions and understand each vaccine. They are very different, and learning about it is overwhelming at first.

The book is somewhat neutral, and unlike the pro-vaccine books, every detail is backed up with peer-reviewed documents which can be easily verified. The pro-vaccine books include a lot of trashing the opposing side and are very much lacking in factual content. This book is not about the reader's opinions. He is a research journalist and has nothing to gain when people vacinate or don't - unlike the opposing side. The provax writers are most often paid by the companies who's products they push. Many are employees of the CDC or FDA or pharmaceutical companies. They also earn money through pharmaceutical stock while simultaneously pushing vaccines and other potentially harmful drugs.

What you will learn is not pretty, no matter where you learn it from but Miller's book is a huge compilation of what you'll find if you really dig for the truth. I say "dig" because everyone needs to realize that the truth is buried - for some strange reason. It is out there, it just takes some work to get to it. This site includes tons of documents, links and facts - stick around :)

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Registered: 04-28-2007
Tue, 03-10-2009 - 12:40am

"the measles could be deadly!!"

Yes, in certain parts the 3rd world. Please know I am now 34 (as of today;) and was born in Ireland in 1975 where I caught measles, mumps, rubella(twice) as well as chicken pox. Guess what, so did my friends. No one died, no one had horrific reactions. What we all ended up with is immunity for life. My experience of measles was I was annoyed the spots showed up Friday night and thus it ruined my weekend of bike riding and playing.

Technically the common cold could kill you too, if the virus weakened the immune system to a bacterial infection and thus strep, (think Jim Henson).

I allowed my oldest to have the MMR at his 15 month checkup; now he does have autism. My younger ds did not get MMR and he has a milder dx of Aspergers. Could I be reaching here? Maybe, but I have one boy with ALL the recommended shots and he is still in a self contained classroom. I have another boy with far less live virus shots and he is in inclusion kindy. With us I see a genetic link and environmental triggers; Just saying, don't believe the hype,

Dee

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Registered: 05-27-1998
Mon, 03-09-2009 - 8:07pm

I can totally understand why you waited. For some reason, my family seems prone to autism, so my youngest brother and his wife have chosen to delay all vaccines for their son, who will be 2 in June. They do plan to give many of them, but on a slower, much-delayed schedule.


My kids are older and got everything before my nephews with autism were even born, but I put my foot down about the gardasil vaccine for my teenage daughter. I am very thankful that it is not required to attend school.


In spite of the mounting research suggesting that vaccines aren't a cause of autism, I still think it is wise to spread them out a lot more than they do, and I don't think any parent should be forced into giving a child a vaccine that causes them to worry.

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Registered: 04-09-2008
Fri, 03-06-2009 - 1:51pm

Hi Heather. I don't vacc. my kids, and I'm not here to tell you what you should do, that's your choice. But,... measles is NOT a deadly disease. The mortality rate from measles declined 90% prior to the introduction of vaccines due to water sanitation laws that were passed as well as education regarding hygiene. Look at the - no deaths.

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Registered: 06-05-2008
Fri, 03-06-2009 - 9:25am
You should really do a little research on measles since it seems to terrify you so much. Measles is not a fatal condition. Bunch of media hype.
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Registered: 09-09-2007
Thu, 03-05-2009 - 11:44pm
I was going to ask where you are getting the info that the measles can be deadly but I'm sure I can imagine. Did the person who told you that give you a percentage? Any statistics? Did they give you a comparison to the risks of the vaccine itself? Did they tell you that more than 95% of deaths from measles occur in underdeveloped countries? Did they tell you that even with the vaccine your child has a possibility of getting the illness in addition to the increased risk of reaction to the vaccine itself?
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Registered: 02-02-2004
Thu, 03-05-2009 - 10:19pm

Hi All


Just wanted to answer more of the questions - you are right - i would rather have a sick child in bed than vaccinate and risk them developing autism or other issues - however, the measles could be deadly!!!

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Registered: 12-10-2008
Thu, 03-05-2009 - 10:00pm

But why on earth would you give your son a live vaccine with Rubella when you are pregnant?

I'm not an expert and haven't researched this part of vaccines, but people are always talking about the viruses shedding after being given vaccines, not sure if it is just live vaccine or not.

Rubella is dangerous for a pregnant woman, especially for the unborn child.

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