Swine Flu Party?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-28-2005
Swine Flu Party?
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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 12:01pm

I was reading this blog and wondered about it. This H1N1 flu worries me - mostly because they're pushing the vax for it through so quickly. I keep wondering why they're doing that.


But, would you have a Swine Flu Party?



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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:03pm




iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:20pm

Did you forget the question?

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:26pm
Honestly I am not concerned about either the shedded virus nor the wild virus, I think they are both extremely unlikely to lead to a serious outcome.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:29pm

You asked for a number and I posted a number.
You asked for the source and I posted the source.
You asked for a link and I posted a link.

If you have more specific questions about the CDC's information, they have contact information in the right-hand margin.















iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:37pm

Let me make it simple ---

"In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely."

WHERE did the word "rarely" come from? Can they prove its rare? Can you?

"The current estimated risk of getting infected with vaccine virus after close contact with a person vaccinated with the nasal-spray flu vaccine is low (0.6%-2.4%)."

Where does this "low" number come from? They have a secret scientific formula to calculate it - the average joe ain't smart enough - is that it? This secret formula is based on what study? Who designed the study? Who paid for it?

"Because the viruses are weakened, infection is unlikely to result in influenza illness symptoms since the vaccine viruses have not been shown to mutate into typical or naturally occurring influenza viruses."

Ask yourself what then does it "mutate into"? Possibly a vaccine strain? What's the difference?

"People who are in contact with others with severely weakened immune systems when they are being cared for in a protective environment (for example, people with hematopoietic stem cell transplants), should not get LAIV (FluMist®)."

Ask yourself: Why not???

We started with chickenpox, that's always a good disease and vaccine to study...if you really care to learn.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:41pm
I absolutely agree with everything in your post, with the exception that I feel that the benefits outweigh the risks.














iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:49pm
Well that is acceptable to me

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:57pm

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I'm assuming that they are considering less than 0.6%-2.4% to be "rare", since they go on to describe that number as "low". But you can contact them and ask if you want a more specific number.

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They said it was from clinical trials. If you have more specific questions about the studies, they have contact information in the right-hand margin.

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Maybe nothing.

"People who are in contact with others with severely weakened immune systems when they are being cared for in a protective environment .... should not get LAIV (FluMist®)."
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Because if a person's immune system is so severely weakened they are being cared for in a protective environment, it stands to reason that it is too risky to give them even a weak virus. They probably shouldn't kiss people or scrub toilets either.















iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:58pm

Sorry, but I cannot be bothered with such nonsense. Numbers are counted - not magically produced in some *study*. Read what's posted.

If you posted a number, then by all means, please post it a second time for everyone to see. This time, use quotes and don't include yet another study that rambles on about more *numbers* - because I will again ask - where did those numbers come from???

In order for them to have a NUMBER, they would have to FIRST know that you (the American population) were sick...each and every time that you (American population) get sick. THEN, they would need to draw blood to determine if you had the vaccine-shed version of the disease, or the natural strain (not a man-made strain) of the disease.

Who's doing that? The disease police???

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
In reply to: cmwendyw
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 5:00pm

Nor was your research limited to the CDC.

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