Vaccination schedule- what did/do you...

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Vaccination schedule- what did/do you...
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Tue, 08-11-2009 - 7:25pm

Vaccination schedule- what did/do you do?



  • I have not/ will not vaccinate my child at all based on current information
  • I follow an alternative schedule but my child will eventually receive all vaxes
  • I follow an alternative sched. and we do/did not vaccinate for certain illnesses
  • My child receives/d all vaccinations on time according to the CDC schedule
  • We started to vaccinate on schedule, then stopped due to research or AE
  • We started to vaccinate on an alternate schedule then quit due to research or AE
  • I have not made a decision yet.
  • other.


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Registered: 04-28-2007
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 2:30am

And again points to my belief in an otherwise dormant gene. All the family with autism I know of are so high functioning no relative would ever peg them as anything other than quirky, weird or odd. The one 1st cousin who is absolutely moderate autie also was born 7 weeks early in Papua New Guinea; no incubator, no legit medical help, he is a miracle baby!.

I also know of children up until the 1990's who have developed seizure disorders due to vaccines. That in turn can cause enough brain damage to trigger autism. Not for a second negating your brother's experience, but perhaps not all are written in the same stone?

Dee

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 2:43am

If the Autism was caused by the seizures then it happened very fast. The shot, then the seizures, then the noticeable changes...the usual.

But that would not make it a DNA issue, not if seizure "disorder" was the cause.

I appreciate your POV, I was hoping you would post some studies about DNA and Autism. :)

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Registered: 05-18-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 7:53am

I am trying to find some studies for you---it's been a few years since I read them, and I don't remember exactly where I got them, but there are definitely theories in the medical community that some forms of autism (Aspberger's in particular that I recall) have a genetic component.

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Registered: 04-22-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 9:52am
Sorry, I should have been clearer about what I meant. I was wondering what are your thoughts on the results of the study - specifically, what do you think is causing the autism in the unvaccinated group? Do you think there is another environmental agent in addition to vaccines causing autism that we should be looking for?














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Registered: 04-28-2007
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 10:26am

This was an interesting study released last April. It points ti a gene sitting between the 5th chromosome. Mainly the study points to prenatal brain development. But it's interesting none the less.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/148121.php

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 5:50pm

"Do you think there is another environmental agent in addition to vaccines causing autism that we should be looking for?"

No, I don't.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 5:56pm
Okay never mind then, I guess I misunderstood something. I thought you said that you didn't believe there was any genetic component to autism.














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Registered: 06-16-2009
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 6:34pm
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 7:52pm

I believe that the vaccines and the ingredients in vaccines, along with the act of shooting disease, attenuated or not, into the body does cause not just Autism but all of the neurological and autoimmune disorders. I have yet to read anything which makes me think otherwise.

The "Vaccine Safety Manual" is always a good resource, so I'll use that book for my example:

The "Vaccine Safety Manual" gives a whole slew of references to studies and peer-reviewed articles which clearly point to vaccines as being the culprit.

Those articles add up to be, in my opinion, undisputable evidence, mainly because it all stacks up, unlike the very few articles from the other side which use words in their conclusions that can be...disputed - easily.

Other than antibiotics (which are ingredients in vaccines too), I have not seen studies offering a lot of causes for any of the neurological and autoimmune disorders. There are those which point to vaccines for the damage, and then there are those which point to antibiotics...but few studies which point to anything else, except those with words that must include the word "trigger" to have any meaning. The papers that do blame environmental causes can't explain why some of us are bothered by these "environmental causes" and some of us are not. Nor do they point out exact culprits. And since they have yet to pinpoint exactly what in the environment could cause these problems, without suggesting vaccine ingredients, my mind wonders back to all the studies which blame heavy metal overdoses & other vaccine ingredients.

Damaging a baby's immune system by assaulting it with vaccines before the central nervous system is fully developed - that is what I think causes the damage, some are more damaged than others. Each subsequent vaccine does more damage. The more underdeveloped, damaged or weakened the immune system is, the more likely a reaction will occur. JMO.

I have searched for reasons as to why they ignore certain facts that we know now - didn't know back in Jenner's day - The myelin sheath has not formed its protective coating when the baby is first vaccinated, and the medical community ignores this, I have to question why. If its because they think a Mom's maternal antibodies cannot protect the baby from that case of measles just *waiting* to pounce...then that is ridiculous. Top that off with the absolute need for Hep B vaccines for all babies right after birth. I'm sorry but the logic just does not add up. Actually, its lacking logic and that brings up a big red flag too.

THAT alone is all the logic I need...but then the lack of studies, as discussed above, is like the cherry on top. Maybe I have not seen the latest, but unless there are mounds of evidence that something besides vaccines is the cause, it cannot compare to the evidence that vaccines do cause brain damage. Both autoimmune AND neurological issues begin with a malfunction in the brain, call it a trigger if you will, but that is where the malfunction first occurs.

If you have any studies that blame other things, not vaccines, I will read them, if you want to take the time. My point is that on one side, the evidence is literally PILING-UP, on the other side, we only have a few documents here and there (and they aren't all that substantial).

I've weighed the evidence, that is why I believe what I believe. I have done the exact opposite of a fear-mongering conspiracy theorist :) and I don't believe there was ever any planned conspiracy either. I think it's just greed gone out of control. By the time they saw what was happening, it was too late to turn it around. No one person is to blame, they share the guilt I guess...

That's my story --- can you change my mind??? :)

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 10-29-2009 - 7:54pm

I don't see vaccinating as an "environmental" issue at all.

Just wanted to clarify.