Vaccines claim life of Louisiana infant

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Vaccines claim life of Louisiana infant
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Mon, 06-02-2003 - 9:53am
http://www.kplctv.com/global/story.asp?s=1301695&ClientType=Printable

"May 30, 2003

Reported by Shelley Brown

The tragic death of a local 4-month-old earlier this month has many scared tonight. The infant's parents think a vaccination may have led to the child's death and that's causing many other parents in our area to decide not to get their children innoculated."

Unlike the baby who succumbed to pertussis, the cause of this baby's death will not be acknowledged, only denied.

And that is tragic.

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Mon, 06-02-2003 - 12:21pm
how would you know from this snippet?

Catherina

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Mon, 06-02-2003 - 3:38pm
But unlike the baby who died of a DOCUMENTED case of pertussis, the cause of THIS baby's death was NOT given in this article- so who KNOWS?

A good friend's mother (the whole family lived in Croatia until 197-something), believes that a *witch* from the local village put a curse on her twin babies. Both died before they were a year old when the *evil spirit* flew in the window and took their hearts out of their bodies. (unvaccinated bodies, too, FTR) The lack of information in the article you linked makes the assertion that it was the vaccine no more believable than my little anecdote.

As tragic as it is, this article doesn't even give the parent's reasoning. Nor does it it give the coroner's decision on the case. It may very well turn out to be a vaccine reaction, but this article gives NOTHING in the way of fact- or even substantiated opinion.

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Mon, 06-02-2003 - 4:37pm


What an odd statement,

"The parents thought the vaccine caused their baby's death. Doctors say that's highly unlikely. "Generally, the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks," says Foch. "

What does the general benefits of vaccines have to do with whether a specific individual died of a vaccine? It's not as if there are no documented cases of children dying of vaccines. We know from the VARS database that it happens.

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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 1:49pm
I agree. Typical statement/disclaimer, though, just getting that generalized advocacy in there to try and mitigate the impact of the specific incident.

The point is that while that statement may or may not be true in general, it is not always true for individual children, one of which is the subject of the commentary.

Funny, we never see disclaimers in reports of a child dying from a "vpd" that the vast majority who get the disease suffer no complications at all. It only seems fair, since it would be the same; mitigating the individual case with information applicable to the abstract, general cases.

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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 2:18pm
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Ok but do we KNOW for SURE that that is the cause?? Cant the parents request an atompsy be done? I mean in the case of the baby who died from Pertussis..you can not hide that..she died from it she had it plain and simple.

Now all these other parents are freaked out because they THINK it was the vaccine. How do they really KNOW???

With the medical science we have today NOONE can tell me they can not find out what caused the infants death.

Carla,

Mommy to...MariaElena,Lindsey,Jac

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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 3:42pm
>>"What an odd statement,

"The parents thought the vaccine caused their baby's death. Doctors say that's highly unlikely. "Generally, the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks," says Foch."<<

Looks like to me that Foch's statement was taken out of context.

>>"It's not as if there are no documented cases of children dying of vaccines. We know from the VARS database that it happens."<<

No, not from the VAERS database - those are unsubstantiated reports and it's this sort of erroneous conclusion that gives the anti-vax sentiment a bad name.

Eve

 
 
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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 4:28pm
Tell me Eve, just how does one conclude death by vaccine?
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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 5:01pm
Eve, do you ever make reports to VAERS? If so, what do you look for, what makes you think it was a vaccine reaction and do you report only within a certain amount of time?
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Tue, 06-03-2003 - 5:11pm
Tell me Crybaby, why are you asking a pediatrician this question? I'm not a pathologist and know full well the disingenuous nature of your question.

Majormom - >>"Eve, do you ever make reports to VAERS? If so, what do you look for, what makes you think it was a vaccine reaction and do you report only within a certain amount of time?"<<

Yes, I have reported reactions to VAERS. There is a rather specific guideline for what to look for: http://www.vaers.org/reportable.htm

If I suspect a significant reaction, I do report within a few days of my suspicion. If your question is....do I report something that happens, say, a year later, the answer is: of course not unless I have reason to really suspect a connection.

Eve

 
 
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Wed, 06-04-2003 - 1:54am
"Tell me Crybaby, why are you asking a pediatrician this question? I'm not a pathologist and know full well the disingenuous nature of your question."

Your job is attending to the age group that is inundated with vaccines (no doubt given at your office) I thought you may have some information . Scuse me if you don't.

Can anyone answer this question?

Maybe not.

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