Well that's annoying!

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Well that's annoying!
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Wed, 09-16-2009 - 6:12pm
I received a letter from dd's school
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Wed, 09-16-2009 - 7:24pm
Get a titer drawn to prove she's got immunity.
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Wed, 09-16-2009 - 10:03pm

I'm from MI.

Rands

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Wed, 09-16-2009 - 10:07pm
Give me your school District.
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Rands

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 09-17-2009 - 3:17am

I think you're being lied to.

I had you confused with a homeschooler (?)

Oh well, I'm awake and saw the board has LOTS of posts since I've been gone...I figured I would just read a few small ones. But yes, if you look into it, you'll find that people will lie about this and all the while, they believe what they tell. They are lying to you but they may not even know they're lying.

I've heard that many women are going into the pharmacy, pregnant, and asking if Thimerosal is in the new H1N1 vaccines and some are telling them "No." when indeed, it IS in the multi-dose vials. OBGYN's all over the country are telling their pregnant patients to get the H1N1 vaccine and most are unaware that the H1N1 has never even been tested in pregnant women. The safety of the fetus is unknown. The safety of the Mom is unknown. Did your doctor read this? Do they know this and continue to push it on pregnant women??? Shouldn't the *hand-out* the doctor gives the patient - shouldn't it include this information??? In most states, it does not.

Our school employees and health-care workers are not intentionally lying to us, they believe what they tell us. The doctors don't create their own Vaccine Information Statements (VIS) but it seems they believe what the government approved VIS says. If anything of importance happens to be left out of this government-approved, lobbyist-paid piece of literature? Well it just won't be considered...at all. Unless you happen to visit a doctor who has time to dig deeper and think outside the box.

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Thu, 09-17-2009 - 6:54am
My dd was homeschooled until this year. I homeschool up until my kids are freshmen in highschool. I did look up the laws and I know that the school cannot kick my dd out of school for not being vaccinated. I don't appreciate bullying tactics that the school is using. many parents will likely cave under the pressure. I am not like that. Although I have chosen most vaccines for my kids, I am not real keen on having the CP booster as I see a lot of waffling regarding vaccines in
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Registered: 07-17-2005
Thu, 09-17-2009 - 5:42pm

Okay, I thought I remembered you from the education debate board. :)

Glad to see you here. It's rained out our activities all day so I had a little time to visit the vaccine debate board. It's really been busy lately!

"I will more than likely have my dd tested for immunity."

Do we know yet if natural immunity is life-long with this particular strain? I've been meaning to look into it but it's hard to find anything worthy of reading these days. Everything I've found so far has been pharma-driven. No surprise there.

I'm especially upset that pregnant women are being lied to about the Thimerosal. We live in a country with the ability to have excellent communication yet the majority of people think that Thimerosal in vaccines is a thing of the past.

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Thu, 09-17-2009 - 10:29pm
I think as we talk about "life long immunity" with regards to chickenpox vaccine, we need to look at lessons learned (by some) on what's happening to the elderly as well as children with this vaccine (and lack of disease). I don't think there's such a thing with CP as life long immunity as it can lead to shingles. But... the non exposure is posing the elderly to come down with shingles at a greater rate, as well as, along now with children for no exposure. Remeber, when children have/had CP, it helped adults that had CP as children to boost their immunity again, whereby reducing the risk of shingles. Now, we've got something completely differnet on our hands. I can't say in honesty that having CP leaves full immunity, as there's still the shingles component to deal with. FWIW, and that's just MHO.
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Rands

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Sat, 09-19-2009 - 3:10pm

I thought the PP was getting titers done for H1N1? But yes, lets do chickenpox since it's pouring down raining again...

I once tried to start a childcare service out of my home. Brayden was gonna be an only child back then (or so we thought but so glad he's not!) so I wanted him to have lots of kids around him during his toddler years. That is where I learned to suspect that he got the chickenpox from a child who was recently vaccinated. The lady who helped me had a grandchild who got the chickenpox vaccine the prior week, plus (I didn't know this until recently) another after-schooler had just gotten his shot for Chickenpox. Back then I knew nothing about incubation or the timing - now I do.

I know it's insane to try and look back and discover where and just how your child caught the Chickenpox...but I just couldn't help myself and since yes, I'm a little crazy, I still think about it all the time. We determined that Vannah had been playing with groups of kids who were vaccinated, and groups who were not. So both of my kids could have gotten the chickenpox from a child who was recently vaccinated. We could not find other cases around us or among the groups we spent time with in either case. Especially in Vannah's case, that drove me crazy because those kids were mostly not vaccinated - yet she didn't cause any of them to get it. That was just too weird. Could it be that the Chickenpox strain which is started by the vaccine is not as contagious as the natural strain? Hummmm, I can only wonder. Vannah was exposed to A LOT of kids during her contagious period because we were involved in a lot of homeschool groups, plus Brayden had a birthday party the day she came down with it. Noe of the kids at the party got the pox. Both vaccinated and not vaccinated.

In my son's case, none of the possible carriers (that we knew) got the pox...they were all vaccinated except a baby that stayed here all day long. (Most likely his Mom had the natural Chickenpox so the baby still had her immunity). Brayden was only exposed to one group of other kids prior to the week he got the Chickenpox. Later I realized that he wasn't even in the grocery stores because the lady who was helping me with daycare was doing my grocery shopping for me.

For those who don't know, Vannah wasn't vaccinated for Chickenpox but Brayden was. Vannah spent most of her toddler days with kids who were not vaccinated, we've been on the go almost daily since she's been born.(Very different from in-home daycare environment). When she got the Chickenpox, it was so mild, no high fever and the rash presented EXTREMELY different than on my son. I guess it's that which keeps me constantly pondering...nonetheless, I'm very glad that my husband and I got the exposure to the chickenpox - twice. Maybe we won't ever have shingles because of it (we're pretty old already). Who knows. As long as I live in a country that allows the internet, I'll let ya know as time goes by. :)

Whenever I read a parent's words stating they will stay away from the not-vaccinated, it just cracks me up! (Was reading another board earlier today.) They don't even realize that kids are allowed in daycare and schools who are not vaccinated...

Mostly, they don't realize that not everyone gets a disease when they are exposed...

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Registered: 08-09-2009
Mon, 09-21-2009 - 6:06am
I agree. Tell them that you're philosophically opposed to vaccinating because the school employs a bunch of idiots. They'd love that one lol.