Why not vaccinate?

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Registered: 05-21-2008
Why not vaccinate?
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Thu, 08-28-2008 - 10:08pm

Dont you want to protect your children from all those diseases? they might thank you one day. I feel bad for all those babies and kids who are not being vaccinated:(


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Registered: 09-23-2005
Fri, 08-29-2008 - 9:08am

What diseases are you worried about my child getting?

None of my kids use drugs intravenously. They are also not sexually active. That nixed Hepatitis B, for example.

I took a good, long look at the risk factors for the vaccine-"preventable" (remember, a vaccinated child can still get a disease) diseases. I evaluated whether my children fit into those categories. I researched what medical care my children would need, have access to, and be able to receive in the event they did contract a disease. And since none of that was very scary, I chose to not inject them with foreign substances.

I completely 100% stand by my decision. I believe my children are healthier for NOT having a slew of vaccines.

Kara

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Than

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Registered: 12-14-2005
Fri, 08-29-2008 - 10:23am

Hi Nycha,

Welcome to the vaccination debate board. First off your son Jayden is really cute. Nice siggy.

If you read back in the posts on the board you'll find out we did vax, we did trust our Doctor, etc. Alas we did this for 18 months including a more aggressive hep b vaccine schedule because I am a carrier.

However my daughter had several adverse events after hep b vaccination involving seizures. We were LUCKY - no permanent damage but when our Doctor said to us she was stopping Hep B vaccination and writing public health because she was worried. We started to ask questions and do some research and were SHOCKED at what we found out. We have since decided to no longer vaccinate. I like to make my bias known right away :)

This is the process we used to do our research: http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-ppvaccinedb&ft=1&ctx=128&cacheTag=x10-28&ld=8/21/2008%2016:34&gfc=1&msg=4252.2

I personally believe that ALL parents should go through a similar process, even those that vaccinate, to ensure they are making "informed" decisions and understand all the issues.

I wish I had taken the time to do my own research on the topic prior to ever having DD vaccinated. I BLINDLY trusted my Doctor. Never again.

So long as a parent has made an "informed" decision to vaccinate (or not) I can respect both decisions equally.

"I feel bad for all those babies and kids who are not being vaccinated:("

I don't feel bad for children that are being "vaccinated" or being "unvaccinated" - it's a personal decision and I respect other people's decisions about how they wish to treat their children whether or not I personally agree/disagree. I simply ask for the same respect in return.






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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 08-29-2008 - 11:48am

Do you also feel sorry for the children injured or killed by the vaccine they received?

Vaccines destroyed my son, he deteriorated before our eyes, it was gut wrenching and the drs were no help at all, not in 1999, not today.

You can read a bit about my experience and some links to just some of the information I have come across in my search for answers.

Don't feel sorry for my children, my fifth child is the only one who hasn't received any vaccines. He turns 6 yrs old next week and has yet to take any type of medication.

http://www.spaces.msn.com/members/vaccination


If you're questioning vaccines or not vaccinating at all, stop by the Non-Vaccine Support Board that I proudly host: http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-ppnonvaccine


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Registered: 06-05-2004
Fri, 08-29-2008 - 6:05pm

In my researched opinion- vaccinations are dangerous and someday I pray the truth will come out and babies lives will be saved. Yes- there is always a rare risk of dying from a natural disease or tragedy- this risk is even less now that we have better hygiene and sanitation (scarlett fever delined in rate and severity WITHOUT any vaccines)- but the very REAL risk of being injured or having a chronic illness or DYING from the vaccinations *meant* to protect our little ones is more frightening to me and MUCH more likely.


Here is a year and a half worth of dying babies following routine infant shots

Kellina ~ Loving wife to Tommy~ SAHomeschooling Christian Mama to 7!

Expecting Baby #8- EDD Jun

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Registered: 06-13-2008
Sun, 08-31-2008 - 4:33pm

Pertusis, flu. meningitis, chicken pox, tetnus . Those a pretty good bunch right there that CANNOT be avoided by drug use, secretions etc.


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Registered: 07-17-2005
Mon, 09-01-2008 - 11:48am
How often have you seen tetanus in your many years of working in hospitals? Are you gonna try and tell me that people are dying all over this country from tetanus too?
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-05-2008
Mon, 09-01-2008 - 1:36pm
You cannot know ahead of time how your child will respond to vaccines either. To be prudent, you must also consider that fact.
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Registered: 04-28-2007
Tue, 09-02-2008 - 12:37pm

Let's see, after the early infant stage pertussis is not as serious.

The flu vaccine is at best an educated guess at what flu virus will be most prevalent during flu season. Last year's flu vaccine was only about 40% affective; people got the shot and later became infected anyway. ie: they guessed wrong.

The meningitis vaccine only covers a select few strains, not all, even the recent commercial for the newest vaccine suggests receiving their vaccine is no guarantee you are protected.

Chicken Pox is one of those viruses that tends to infect the vaccinated as well as avoid the unvaccinated. There are many who have blood titers positive for chicken pox who never showed symptoms in their life.

Tetanus is wholly preventable if you wash and irrigate the wound thoroughly. The reason it's still prevalent in poorer countries has a lot to do with unsanitary birthing practices and cutting the umbilical cord with dirty instruments.

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Registered: 09-23-2005
Tue, 09-02-2008 - 4:44pm

I see others have responded to your post already.

I do know that not all diseases can be avoided by not being sexually active or an intravenous drug user. That's why I used "for example" in my initial statement.

Like I said, we evaluated the risk factors, including the risk of exposure and risk of being infected for our children who are fed a nutritionally balanced diet and are well hydrated. We also looked into the care we would be able to receive should they be infected. For us, the risks of infection were not great enough to vaccinate for everything out there.

Did you vaccinate your kids against Japanese encephalitis? Smallpox? Anthrax? Why choose some over others???

Kara

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Than

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Registered: 10-18-2007
Wed, 09-03-2008 - 1:36am

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