WHY Won't They Do The Research?

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-17-2007
WHY Won't They Do The Research?
56
Tue, 11-24-2009 - 8:17am

http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/02/vaccine-autism-war-why-wont-they-do.html

Apart from the many thousands of allegedly hysterical, delusional parents and allegedly fraudulent, huckster professionals who have raised safety concerns, particularly autism concerns, about vaccines two high ranking members of the American public health system have stated a need for more research of possible vaccine-autism connections.

Dr. Julie Gerberding, former head of the CDC and Dr. Bernadine Healy, former head of the NIH and the American Red Cross have BOTH indicated that more research of vaccine-autism issues COULD and SHOULD be done.

So WHY are public health authorities like the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee REFUSING to authorize funding to research possible vaccine-autism connections?

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 1:25pm

Wow Dana, way to win friends and influence people!

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-18-2007
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 1:42pm

Ah... the Poland study.

Certainly comparable to the over-vaccinated US of A, don't you agree? And of course there's this statistical method for such a crummy sample size, but hey - we got what we needed!

-Jamie

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 3:41pm

Ah yes, eternal dissatisfaction.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-18-2007
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 4:36pm

Didn't I just tell you?

The findings aren't meaningless, but extrapolating them to this part of the globe should be discouraged.

Do you think logistic regression is the best statistical method for this sample size? Why or why not?

Jamie

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 5:02pm

Please see Gorski's comments - the demographic is ideal for comparison as an industrialized nation with similar ethnicity and access to healthcare.


http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962


It's applicable and the arguments for application are valid.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-18-2007
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 6:49pm

I've already read it.

I don't disagree with the use of Poland as a comparable to the US based on infrastructure, living conditions, etc... as you said during our brewhaha downstairs. First:

<<>>

Really? The statistical variations and tables posted by David Gorski on both of his blogs don't tell me enough since I'd want to know what ages of the subjects correlate to the respective findings. So, I need the whole paper. Once I've read it (on Tuesday since that's the only day I have access to the university library) I'll report back.

Are we coining the term "vaccinated" based on MMR or MV alone, were there other vaccines? If so / not how was that controlled? Extrapolating these findings to this region without at least addressing this, seems misplaced. Plus, they appear to have all been vaccinated in some shape or form. Anyway, looks like this is what we have... don't know of anyone performing a case study on American children - do you?

Then there's the sample size and logistic conditional regression. You are free to take Gorski's word for it. I'm not.

Jamie

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 6:56pm
Oh Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. Don't you know that asking about the "other vaccines" is considered "moving the goalposts" lol. That is not an appropriate line of questioning for them.

Photobucket

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-06-2009
Fri, 12-18-2009 - 11:10pm

The issue is with MMR - which was the topic of the study - not other vaccines as Poland did not have mandatory vaccination for MMR until 2004.


Love, stay at the kids table until you've finished your veggies.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-18-2007
Sat, 12-19-2009 - 12:30am
how spectacularly relevant. thanks for playing.
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-16-2009
Sat, 12-19-2009 - 12:36am
lol @ the veggies comment, if you only knew me. anyway. I am aware that the study was on the MMR. Personally I find the studies that limit themselves to just the MMR rather well, limited, lol. I know that Wakefield said it was the MMR but I have issues with Wakefield's work.

Photobucket