Would you vaccinate??? Why or why not??

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Registered: 09-20-2004
Would you vaccinate??? Why or why not??
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Mon, 07-06-2009 - 9:53am

First, let me tell you that I am not one of those "nut job" parents who blames my child's autism on vaccines, although I do not at all know whta caused her to have autism, and I think that when the mystery of autism is solved, we will find that there is more than one "autism" and many potential causes. I don't have the time or energy to devote to debate on that subject matter. She developed completely normally until about 18 months. Secondly, let me tell you that I have a 12 year old daughter who is completely up to date on her vaccines, even where my 10 year old daughter with autism is not.

Here is why: At my younger dd's 15 month checkup, she received 4 vaccinations at one time, and reacted to one of them. Who knows which? All I know is that she was inconsolable for about a week after the fact, and that she had quite a high fever, also. It wasn't until later that she was diagnosed with autism, and it was a few years before I began to wonder if the two events were linked. (I can show you video of my daughter which shows that she was not autistic for at least the first 15 months of her life.) Anyhow, I stopped vaccinating her...because her immune system is weak. I had the support of her mainstream pediatrician. Fast forward 8 years. I decided to get dd caught up on her vaccinations...one vaccine at a time. Her dr. suggested we do the DTap first. We did this in August, 2008. And her arm was swollen from the shoulder to her elbow for a solid month. I am done vaccinating her.

I learned after my daughter's first reaction that I had also reacted to the DTP, which was formulated much differently back then. After my first DTP vaccine, all of the rest of them were DT, which I had no problems with.

So, I am pregnant. Is there a genetic predisposition to having reactions to certain vaccines? I am thinking about following a modified vaccine schedule with this little one. I have two kids...one who has reacted twice and one who has never had a reaction. I don't like the idea of just following whatever schedule is out there without at least weighing the risks and benefits. I certainly do not want to cause my little one any long term ill effects...and we all know that that has happened before.

So, what would you do, and why??

Heather

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 07-15-2009 - 3:46pm

I have found a MD who's supportive but she preaches each and every time. I decided to look elsewhere when she preached to me about the Tetanus shot. No thanks, I'll make sure my kids boo-boo's are properly cleaned - and right away. I'll do the same when my husband or I get a boo-boo too. Soldiers who died with this disease did not have the necessary medical attention until it was too late. Your child is not at risk if he/she is getting proper medical attention.

I have found a natural doctor but my insurance doesn't cover the visits. I'll wait and see what NoBama does about our health care system and then I'll decide what to do with our crappy insurance policy provided by my husband's job.

Call your local Chiropractic office and ask if they can refer you to a pediatrician who will be supportive of your decisions.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 07-15-2009 - 4:07pm

I've missed seeing you around here!

I will soon try this on my son, when I do, I'll let you know. Right now, it's just water in his ears but he seems to be traveling down the exact path I did at his age. Since childhood, I have had wax build-up and also the water retention after swimming. Every spring I have had to use candles to draw the excess wax out. If I'm not careful, I end up creating MORE wax because I guess I remove too much (?). But - ear candling works, my neighbor is a Cherokee Indian and she taught me how to use them. If you don't use them correctly, they don't work...and it takes time to build up the experience (that is why teaching someone else is very difficult). The medical community swears they don't work but I suspect it's because the pharma industry has made them believe it. However, they do work - but only when used correctly. If you need proof that they work, learn to use them and see for yourself. Then, burn the candles down without putting them in your ear - that way you can see the difference.

The problem with using them on your child is that the effectiveness lies entirely on your own instincts and your child cannot tell if the candle is properly positioned. And since you can't feel what he feels - you can't tell either. When you use them on your own ears, you learn the proper position, it comes from a lot of experience though, so most people give up before learning how to use them.

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Wed, 07-15-2009 - 4:09pm

w/ re: to sibling histor of vax reaction: the CDC is currently (may have completed but has not published findings yet) studying this very topic according to this page (at the very bottom) http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/cisa/cisa_studies.htm#10

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Wed, 07-15-2009 - 8:06pm

My brother was perfectly "normal" before his shot...just so you don't get the idea that kids are born with some affliction that causes them to become autistic after a shot. That is what people like to throw around...but it's BS and has no basis whats so ever to back up the claim. It's just fluff to make you assume that all doctors know best and all parents be damned.


I have to respectfully disagree. This may be true for some kids but I do not believe it to be the case for all children- aka Hannah Poling.

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Wed, 07-15-2009 - 8:51pm

You are probably right, I'm sure you have more education in the sciences than I've ever had - which amounts to zero. I am a big fan of self-education though so I'm learning more everyday.

I was exposed to the same environment as my brother so I have to wonder - if I had a shot from the same exact vial, on the same day...would I be Autistic too?

Or maybe the nurse didn't shake the vial well enough?

But since they have yet to identify the "gene" which is at fault...I still believe in what my family witnessed. Normal child, vaccine, never normal again - all within the same day. I hear the same story repeated over and over, except now-days it doesn't usually include the seizures. But I've seen that too, the doctors write it off as if the child has always had the condition "febrile seizures", the vaccine had NOTHING to do with it. Yeah, right!

Also, I once worked for a man whose entire family was ADD/ADHD except the wife. After what I learned from them, I started to believe as they did, that vaccines caused it. Nothing scientific, just logic.

But the predisposure issue can be entirely correct, I hope that they learn more about it.

And thanks for not agreeing BTW --- that's how we learn :)

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Registered: 09-23-2005
Thu, 07-16-2009 - 3:31am

That's really interesting. I've never heard of ear candling before.

We just use warm water and one of those syringe-looking squirter things. We do it in the shower because it can get drippy. All we do is squirt (VERY gently) the warm water in his ear with his head tilted and let it swoosh around in there for a bit and then we tilt his head the other way to drain it out. We never use Q-tips or stick anything in the ear canal.

He tried to tell us that the wax was why he wasn't listening. Didn't fly. :)

He's only had one "official" ear infection, and even that wasn't treated with any medication, but the wax is very dark and gets quite clumpy in there so we clean it out every couple months or so. His pediatrician actually found it when we were there for another reason one day and he mentioned that some people are just prone to wax build-up.

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Than

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Registered: 07-17-2005
Fri, 07-17-2009 - 3:32pm

"He tried to tell us that the wax was why he wasn't listening. Didn't fly. :)"

Too cute!

You should check it out. After using the candles for so many years now, I wonder if my father would not have been so hard of hearing. I get so much build-up that my hearing is effected. I'm glad I learned about them because I can't imagine my kids having to go through what I did at the doctors office. A couple of irrigation experiences and I never wanted to go there again! Especially with water in the ears, kids will often let it go to the point of infection and they won't say anything until it hurts. When you get my age, you appreciate being able to clearly hear! Learning about the candles has completely eliminated any ear infections for me too.

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Registered: 02-20-2007
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 6:14pm

I am getting all the vaccines for my daughter. I am spacing them out, though.

I will not allow her to play with non-vaxed kids, and any non-vaxed kids will not be allowed in my home - not until my daughter has reached an age where she has had all her vaccines.

I had to try for a long time to have my child, and I don't take her for granted, and I don't take risks with her health.

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 6:53pm
better not let any adults in the house either-- vaccines wane thus the need for boosters.

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Registered: 06-16-2009
Fri, 07-31-2009 - 7:03pm
also how are you going to determine the vaccination status of your visitors beforehand- going to set up a poll? they have to hand over their shot records at the door?

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