Yikes! Increased cases of pertussiss!

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Yikes! Increased cases of pertussiss!
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Sun, 01-25-2009 - 1:03pm
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Registered: 01-02-2009
Sun, 01-25-2009 - 4:40pm

Something to understand about pertussis stats--they are easily manipulated--here is an explanation of how this works:

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/02/14/pertussis-yo-yo-stats/

The other thing to understand is that the vaccine does not prevent carriage or transmission of pertussis. In some cases, being vaccinated can actually cause transmission. How does this work?

Suppose that your elderly father dutifully went and got the new pertussis vaccine for grown-ups because he didn't want to pass the illness on to his grandchildren. Then he gets a bad cough. He goes to the doctor, who knows that he is vaccinated (after all, the doc gave him the vaccine, there it is in the record) so the doctor reasonably assumes that the cough is not pertussis. Unfortunately, it is pertussis. Grandpa goes and coughs all over his grandchildren, who come down with whooping cough. The doctors blame the whooping cough on the kids next door, who aren't vaccinated. Ignoring, of course, the children living in the house on the other side, who have been coughing like banshees for a week, but did get the vaccine.

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Sun, 01-25-2009 - 6:04pm
I am glad that you have it all figured out - me I will choose to protect my kids.
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Registered: 01-02-2009
Sun, 01-25-2009 - 7:27pm

You didn't actually read the article I linked, did you? Oh well, vaccinate your children. I'm totally in favor of people doing their own research and making their own choices.

My family has been skipping all or most vaccines for five generations at this point. My unvaccinated grandchildren are healthy and so far (5 and 9 years old) haven't had pertussis.

When my granddaughter was a newborn, her pediatrician was pushing the pertussis vaccine, hard! She said there was an epidemic of pertussis in the state. My daughter asked: "how many cases." "Thirty" the doctor said. "And who is getting pertussis?" Vaccinated teenagers" the doctor replied, vaccinated as babies, of course.

Now, why were teenagers being diagnosed with pertussis nine years ago? Simple. There was a new vaccine in the pipeline, meant for kids nine and up. In order to get people on board for vaxing their older kids, pertussis in this age group needed to be visible. So, the word went out, journal articles got published, doctors started looking for pertussis in pre-teens and teens AND found it.

If you believe that up until that point there were no outbreaks of pertussis in this age group, I've got a nice bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. And if you believe that doctors were accurately recognizing and diagnosing pertussis in this age group before they got a heads up, I've got a London Bridge (is it still in Arizona?) which would make a nice yard ornament at a reasonable price.

Of course this vaccine works. Of course it will save your child's life. No problem.

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Tue, 01-27-2009 - 2:51pm
Welcome to the board chocolatelab2!





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Tue, 01-27-2009 - 2:55pm

Waving hand - also been through two pertusiss "outbreaks" in DD's childcare - all vaccinated children that got pertussis.

I think I have told this story many times and Lori (if you are lurking please post) has also - been a coughing adult, coughing for weeks and say to the doc - could I have pertussis, nah you were vaccinated couldn't be... BTW I have never had the pertussis vaccine and when I point this out - it's still "unlikely..." Doc - shouldn't you test? Nope.






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Tue, 01-27-2009 - 4:15pm
Part of the reason they don't test, if you've been coughing for weeks, is that the test only works early in the illness. As I understand it, pertussis gets in there, does its damage (to the cilia, little hairy things) and then goes away. So three or four weeks into the cough you won't test positive for pertussis and you are no longer infectious (there may be exceptions to the no longer infectious part). So why are you still coughing? Because it takes about 100 days for the cilia to grow back. This is also why people who've had pertussis don't usually feel sick, except when they are coughing. They aren't sick. They have damaged cilia.
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