Did you hear about this?

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Community Leader
Registered: 06-16-1998
Did you hear about this?
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Sat, 06-08-2013 - 12:07pm

I read about this story on another board and wondered what you ladies would have to say:

http://www.today.com/moms/are-some-places-limits-diaper-changing-1C9975046

Since we've all raised kids (and some of us have done grandparent duty also) we can relate to the "emergency"...what do you think of the situation, do you agree with the parents or the employee? and what would you have done in her shoes?

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Registered: 08-22-2009
Sat, 06-08-2013 - 12:45pm

I do not think that a diaper should ever be changed where food is being served.   It suprises me that since there are so many rules that must be followed in establishments serving food for sanitary reasons that it is not illegal. 

The father was a jerk. 

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Registered: 04-29-2000
Sun, 06-09-2013 - 12:14pm

 I cannot think if I've ever been in a public washroom lately that does not have a baby changing station.  I'm even wondering if it is a law to have them in all public washrooms now...well, maybe not - but it certainly is not an uncommon thing and especially so I would say in chain restaurants and coffee shops.  However, it's possible too that I just don't pay close attention to when there is one or when there is not one since I am not needing to use those things at this stage of my life! 

And when I think of it, when my kids were babies there were no baby change stations available then!  I have no memory of changing a baby on one of those!  So what did we do then?  I suppose we just didn't spend that much time out and about?  Or what? 

So when it comes to this particular case, I stil don't think it was a good thing to change a baby in a public place, as in this case Starbucks.  It's not mentioned if the couple were out in a car - but if they were, they could have gone to the car to change the baby on the back seat.  It does seem though that Starbucks should look into putting a change station into all their washrooms. 

I don't think that couple should have made the assumpition to change a diaper in the shop like that. 

Shirley

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Community Leader
Registered: 06-16-1998
Sun, 06-09-2013 - 4:39pm

I think that the parents made an extremely poor choice to change a poopy diaper in the dining area of the Starbucks. Besides the sanitation issue, how unpleasant for the other customers who were there with their coffees and pastries or whatever they were eating. We can't know the tone of voice the employee used but if I was a customer I would probably think it was justified. For the parents to then retaliate by pouring coffee on the floor was immature and ridiculous. Great example for their kid on conflict resolution. 

When my kids were in diapers 25+ years ago those changing stations were just starting to appear in public restrooms. I remember changing diapers in the stroller, or going to the car if necessary. I remember several times choosing to cut short a shopping trip or other outing because a kid had a meltdown or some other issue tto which I didn't want to subject the public/other customers.

In this case, I think the parents could have asked an employee if there was someplace in the store where they could change the baby---maybe an employee changing room? I don't know what they have in the back of a Starbucks store. If not, they should have taken the child out of the store and found someplace else--their car, another restaurant that did have a changing table, whatever. They should have made common courtesy and consideration for others their first thought, and from there they would have found a solution.

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Registered: 04-29-2000
Sun, 06-09-2013 - 5:02pm

Although I didn't say as much as how you put it, Elspeth, I do agree with what you said re the whole situation.  It was really poor judgement on the parents' part to assume that it was okay considering all there was to consider to change a diaper in such an establishment that sells food!  Not to mention the behaviour of the father in retaliation for whatever words were said by the employee.  Pretty immature behaviour on his part.  

One wonders if the parents even thought about how others around them would feel about this diaper being changed!  Is there some sort of entitlement going on here with that generation?  Just wondering......!

Shirley

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Registered: 10-12-2004
Wed, 06-12-2013 - 4:50pm

There weren't many change tables or feeding areas in public places when my kids were babies & so I had to be creative but I don't ever remember doing either in a location where food was being served but I have observed it being done recently. The feeding seems to be done discretely & I'm not sure anyone but another nursing Mom would realize. A few times, it's been right out there in everyone's face with the breast on show which I'm not a fan of.

I think it's disgusting to see a baby being changed even if it's only a wet diaper when I'm trying to eat or drink out and believe that father acting inappropriately with his attitude regardless of what the employee said. The baby can wait until you get to a more suitable location even if it is on the floor of the bathroom, that is what change pads are for. However, continuing my rant from my earlier post, these young parents follow a strange set of rules as dictated by people who must spend days dreaming up stupid ideas. The couple were likely told that a baby must be changed immediately if they poop or they will go to college still in diapers! Kiss

Dee

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Registered: 07-24-1997
Mon, 06-17-2013 - 4:49pm

Too funny, Dee!

I didn't see this until today.  But gosh, it's so simple:  if there's no changing table, lay a bunch of paper towels on the floor, lay out the changing pad, plop the baby on it, and proceed as usual. Since most of us can't remember exactly what we did, obviously it wasn't too hard for any of us to figure out!

Perhaps we should be concerned about the mental capacity of a dad who can't figure out where to change his baby's diaper and responds to criticism by dumping coffee on the floor.