Plans for the Fourth?

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Registered: 06-16-1998
Plans for the Fourth?
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Wed, 07-03-2013 - 1:49am

What will you be doing on Thursday for Independence Day? I know that our Canadian friends will be doing whatever they normally do on a Thursday, but will the US friends be doing anything special?

At this time of year I always remember a little saying that my dad would share, although it doesn't make sense anymore, at least not in California. The "backstory" is that when I was a kid, liquor stores here were not open on holidays; in fact, almost all retail stores were closed on the major holidays. (now I think they can sell liquor everyday between 6am-2am in CA). So my dad's reminder was: "First thing on the third, take a second to get a fifth for the Fourth". Cute, huh?

So as a Just Wondering question, where you live are there restrictions on the sale of alcoholic beverages? Is hard liquor or beer or wine sold in supermarkets or do you have to go to a special shop? Are Sundays or holidays "dry" where you live?

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Registered: 08-22-2009
Wed, 07-03-2013 - 7:27am

I am having a minor medical procedure this afternoon so will be spending my 4th on the couch recovering.  To top it off today is DH's birthday.  But I chose today so I would not have to take a day off work. I have a 4 day weekend so I still will have some time and we are celebrating DH's birthday on Sunday.

Here they sell beer and wine in grocery stores but not hard liquor.  They are not allowed to sell it from midnight Sat until noon on Sunday. I think that is a state wide law. Unless local laws are more restrictive. 

There is also a county law that alcohol service ends at midnight Sun-Fri and 1:00 on Saturday.  I only know this because the local movie theater which sells beer and wine annouces that at that time servers will remove all unconsumed alcohol. 


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Registered: 06-16-1998
Wed, 07-03-2013 - 11:28am

We will be going to an evening get-together at a friend's new place. He's on the 22nd floor of a downtown building, hopefully he has a view of the city fireworks.

As for the alcoholic beverages, I think the only time that alcohol cannot be sold here is between 2am to 6am daily. It seems to be sold everywhere; in addition to liqour stores, many grocery stores and convenience stores sell all of it. I guess its a question of being able to get a license to sell it. Beer or wine stores are becoming very popular here. There are a lot of microbreweries here (supposedly San Diego has a lot of award winning beers) that have little shops where one can buy tastes of tap beers and get a growler filled from the tap or buy bottled beer to take away, but you cannot buy a pint in a glass and drink it there---that would make it a bar. Also wine tasting places that also sell bottles of wine, although at those places you can sit and drink a glass of wine---I think they have to serve some food so it probably becomes a restaurant instead of a bar?

I'm realizing that it has been a long time since I've been to a bar! A couple of years ago we accompanied ds to a tavern, and a few years before that the kids took us to a "lounge" for dh's birthday for a craft cocktail after dinner. I guess we're not big on nightlife LOL.

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Registered: 07-30-1997
Wed, 07-03-2013 - 4:05pm

We're having 20 of the 24 in the immediate family over; I hope to make these: http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/double-dip-sugar-cookies/7dd569f3-7b0b-4081-b921-31f602b19e0b and also get the house ready and clean the pool while dh mows/trims/tidies outside. I'm providing watermelon, meat and wine/water/soda; others are bringing beer (to drink and fancy to taste), more meat, salads, dessert, chips... Maybe fireworks later, otherwise I'll drag dh Friday night (I love fireworks!)

Most of our liquor in St Louis county is in the grocery store or specialty shops; no real liquor stores like we had in Chicago.  St Louis city has more liquor stores.  In the town where I grocery shop, you can't get alcohol til noon on Sunday.  I don't think there are any other restrictions. When I moved to MO, the blue laws were still intact and there was NO alcohol on Sundays except in restaurants, which some let you carry out a six pack.  For that matter malls weren't open on Sundays then either ('84).And car dealers still aren't open on Sundays - not sure if that's a law or not.  Holidays - usually the grocery store has limited hours on big holidays, maybe closing at noon or early afternoon to let employees enjoy them.  Malls and most restaurants are open as usual tomorrow.

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Registered: 04-29-2000
Wed, 07-03-2013 - 9:58pm

Each province in Canada decides how to distribute liquor.  In Quebec and Ontario, where we used to live, the liquor stores are government run or managed, as far as I recall.  But here in Alberta, liquor stores are individually/privately owned and run, though there are chain franchises and grocery stores often have a liquor store of their own, i.e under their own name.  Both beer and wine and hard liquor are sold altogether in a store.  No liquor is sold in grocery stores themselves...it is always a separate building that houses and sells liquor.  Liquor stores are open 7 days a week.  As for closing time, I guess it's similar to store  closing hours, in the evening.  But some liqour stores can stay open really late...like the one my Dd used to work at downtown some time ago.  It closed sometime around 2 a.m. 

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Registered: 04-16-2009
Thu, 07-04-2013 - 11:37am

The difference between Quebec and Ontario is that Quebec allows the sale of beer and wine in grocery stores and depanneurs (corner stores).  Ontario allows the sale of only Ontario wines in winery-owned. These stores tend to be attached but not part of grocery stores.

Beer in Ontario are sold in a separate Government-owned beer outlets. And all other wines (not Ontario) and spirits plus speciality beers can only be bought at Ontario Liguor board outlets, run by the provincial government. If I remember correctly, it was the same thing in BC when I lived there.

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Registered: 04-29-2000
Thu, 07-04-2013 - 12:08pm

Oh yeah, I forgot all those details re Quebec and Ontario liquor sales.  I think things changed too from when we used to live there.  Liquor sales in Canada is a far cry from shopping for liquor in Yuma, AZ. where we were this past March visting friends there who had rented a place.  There you could buy all the darn liquor you wanted from any grocery store/supermarket or Walmart...well, just about anywhere, it seemed!  And cheap?  Holy cow... you don't see prices like that in Canada!

Shirley